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#81
If the players are so heart broken after a loss, why is their effort so pitiful out on the ground?

It doesn't make any sense.

The only thing I can think of is that the heart break and tears are selfish and/or hypocritical.

Like probably many others, I'm angry with the players for embarrassing the jumper. We pay them good money and take time out of our week to watch them ply their craft and we are rewarded with the limp efforts of the last few weeks.

It's hard to support or take pride in the club/jumper when the players wearing the jumper and representing the club are showing no passion or pride.
Mens sana in corpore sano - A healthy mind in a healthy body.

Navy, it's not just a color, it's an attitude !!!
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#82
(05-25-2015, 01:50 AM)bancroft link Wrote:The pres blinked in RD two and admitted we were rebuilding!
The press were all over it with talk of who's up for trade and what they are worth.
It comes out over the weekend that the "powers" spoke with Gibbs and Murphy to tell them they were "required".
So everyone else on the list KNOWS they are tradeable, If I was Henderson, Yarram, Casboult or any of the other 40 odd I would be telling my manager to get the best deal for me before Carlton tries to do the best deal for them, as the club does not rate them going forward.

This is a complete fiasco from the remnants of an appalling board that has presided over this club for nearly 20 years (pratts time excluded)

I've said it before and I say it again, time for a coup!!!!

That's a big mistake IMO by the president.

IMO a club should never use the term 'rebuilding', whether you are or not. IMO that phrase is insulting to the players who are currently on the list. It can also suggest to them that they are not good enough.
Mens sana in corpore sano - A healthy mind in a healthy body.

Navy, it's not just a color, it's an attitude !!!
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#83
(05-25-2015, 05:19 AM)Amers link Wrote:IMO that phrase is insulting to the players who are currently on the list. It can also suggest to them that they are not good enough.

Suggest? Mick flat out says they're not good enough. He's even singled players out.
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#84
For God's sake, if the players are that bloody precious that hearing  that we are 'rebuilding' has scarred them, and scared them into playing soft, lazy, unaccountable footy, then they are right there demonstrating the exact reason why we need a clean out of the list.
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#85
(05-25-2015, 05:43 AM)Dominator_7 link Wrote:For God's sake, if the players are that bloody precious that hearing  that we are 'rebuilding' has scarred them, and scared them into playing soft, lazy, unaccountable footy, then they are right there demonstrating the exact reason why we need a clean out of the list.

When a company announces redundancies what do you think happens? Everyone starts working 16 hours shifts or they go fuck this, put in the minimum amount of work and use their time productively for their own benefit?
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#86
(05-25-2015, 05:48 AM)ItsOurTime link Wrote:When a company announces redundancies what do you think happens? Everyone starts working 16 hours shifts or they go screw this, put in the minimum amount of work and use their time productively for their own benefit?
Going through it as we speak
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
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#87
(05-25-2015, 05:43 AM)Dominator_7 link Wrote:For God's sake, if the players are that bloody precious that hearing  that we are 'rebuilding' has scarred them, and scared them into playing soft, lazy, unaccountable footy, then they are right there demonstrating the exact reason why we need a clean out of the list.

x2
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#88
(05-25-2015, 05:11 AM)Amers link Wrote:If the players are so heart broken after a loss, why is their effort so pitiful out on the ground?

It doesn't make any sense.

The only thing I can think of is that the heart break and tears are selfish and/or hypocritical.

Like probably many others, I'm angry with the players for embarrassing the jumper. We pay them good money and take time out of our week to watch them ply their craft and we are rewarded with the limp efforts of the last few weeks.

It's hard to support or take pride in the club/jumper when the players wearing the jumper and representing the club are showing no passion or pride.

it comes down to one - thing again - LEADERSHIP.

cARLTON HAS SFA - AT ANY LEVEL.
Finals, then 4 in a row!
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#89
(05-25-2015, 05:43 AM)Dominator_7 link Wrote:For God's sake, if the players are that bloody precious that hearing  that we are 'rebuilding' has scarred them, and scared them into playing soft, lazy, unaccountable footy, then they are right there demonstrating the exact reason why we need a clean out of the list.

I have 4 words for you.................Could not agree more.

I found my thrills, on Windy Pills
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#90
(05-25-2015, 06:16 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Going through it as we speak

Hope it works out for you, redundancies suck, even if you don't get the chop
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