Rd 19: Post Game Conversations: Carlton vs Geelong

[DJC]

Geelong not challenging Danger's ban.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-08-01/ge...e-decision

I was hoping that they would ... and he'd end up with 2 weeks off.

I guess from a team perspective, giving one of your key players a week off to refresh is a good thing.  Two weeks is a different matter.

[LP]

I was hoping that they would ... and he'd end up with 2 weeks off.

I guess from a team perspective, giving one of your key players a week off to refresh is a good thing.  Two weeks is a different matter.

Yep, I was hoping the Pudding Faces would cut up and cry about the perceived unfair treatment and take it all the way to the tribunal winning Dangerfield an extra weeks break. Bartlett was actively encouraging the Handbaggers on SEN knowing full well they play Nthmond in two weeks.

The rumors behind the scenes are that because of his recent ankle he was borderline week to week and they were probably going to have to rest him anyway! But they are spinning it now that it's all about doing the right thing by the team!

[Professer E]

I was waiting for the whole thing to go to appeal and then conveniently get dismissed.  Pleased to see that all involved did the right thing and accepted the findings.

[LP]

I was waiting for the whole thing to go to appeal and then conveniently get dismissed.  Pleased to see that all involved did the right thing and accepted the findings.

I was sort of hoping for some more Pudding Face, I know I write that I'm sick of it but it also gives me a good laugh! ;D

Schadenfreude!

[kruddler]

Whilst it's unfortunate that Kreuzer was concussed, I am a firm believer in the outcome of an action not dictating whether or not that action is legal.

So am i. but the afl is not....and thus the right result prevailed....for consistency

[LoveNavy]

I was sort of hoping for some more Pudding Face, I know I write that I'm sick of it but it also gives me a good laugh! ;D

Schadenfreude!

I think its hilarious. The disbelief on the guys face is so incongruous with the play everyone else is watching. Cracks me up every time. I'm happy to get any giggles I can at this end of the season. Especially as the mighty Blues are reduced to a skeleton crew :-\

[flyboy77]

but he had both of Kreuzers wrists/forearms pinned by his side, what was Kreuzer holding the ball with his teeth?

This was this first thought that entered my mind. Danger had both arms well pinned, so if he believed Kreuzer still had the ball, which he really barely had had in any event, how was the big Special holding it....

It's a BS story, for sure imo.

[Milhanna13]

No. Here's what i find really interesting. We've now had several opposition players rubbed out by the mrp. Yet the umpire on the day fails to award a 50m penalty, or free kick. In fact, it somehow results in an opposition goal (occasionally). Go figure. I'll admit, I'm as bias as the next person, but seriously there's been more of these to be a fluke :o

Lewis - Cripps, anyone?

[IvanAwfulbigone]

I don't see why there is an obsession with bringing the ball carrier crashing to the ground. If they're completely wrapped up and standing, the ball won't be coming out regardless, and the tackle is equally effective. Unless there are ulterior motives to the said crashing to the ground.

This.

It's been an evolution linked to macho bullsh!t from Sheedy and the 80's.  Jezza was one of the best tacklers I have seen and when he wrapped a player up and pinned his arms he just set those big thighs like pylons which meant tackled player and ball was going nowhere.

Lots of commentators (esp. SEN) lamenting the fact that players have been taught to pin the arms while tackling - Robert Walls said it was a focus when they employed an ex-rugby tackling coach at the Brisbane Bears.  Well guess what, I have a 'How to Play Aussie Rules' manual from the  1950's which demonstrates the right way and wrong way (with photos) to execute the skills. Right way to tackle is to bear hug the opposition and pin his arms. Player can't handball or kick, end of story.

Nowadays it's all about psychological ascendance and intimidation - i.e. slinging, driving into the ground, giving them an extra shove when you've already won the free, humiliating a la Cale Hooker on Daniel Neilsen, etc., etc.

[LP]

This.

It's been an evolution linked to macho bullcrap from Sheedy and the 80's.

Sheedy is incredibly vindictive, he doesn't just want to defeat opponents, he wants to hurt them removing them from the game or even end their career.

One time Sheedy severely chastised David Hille after seeing Hille assist an opponent up off the ground.  Hille thought that the player was seriously hurt after a collision, but coming to his aid did not wash as an excuse with Sheedy. The inference Hille took was that if an opponent was dying on the ground then Sheedy thought the team should use the number advantage to score a goal first, then call for help second!

I recall Hille's father, a life long CheatsFC supporter, hint to me that he lost all respect for Sheedy after that day!

But that is the way Sheedy played as well, those of us old enough know about the ankle taps, king hits and corkies that Sheedy would hand out with monotonous regularity!