Rd 19: Post Game Conversations: Carlton vs Geelong

[JonHenry]

It's hilarious.

People on this forum want Murphy and Gibbs to go harder.

Some players aren't built for it.  They are not driven by it, and even when going hard will not go like the others who go hard.

They're different types.  Murphy has gotten belted from pillar to post going hard.  He's a smaller sized classy type who can win the hard ball, but can't drop a player.  That's ok, you don't go rally driving with a sports car.

Gibbs is more of an all terrain vehicle.  Doesn't have another gear but can get down and dirty with the best of them, just don't expect any punishment to get dished out by these guys.

You set yourself up for disappointment.

What you are looking for is a tank.  We only have a couple and the only effective ones are on ice for the season.  kerridge looks like Tarzan and plays like Jane.  THATS one you should ask questions of.  He finds intensity sparingly

It's hilarious

Imagine John Longmire saying that about two of his mids and one being the captain.

Seriously they're our captain and vice captain and two of our highest paid players and you want to make excuses for them?

Why? Because that's not their go.
Wow that is exactly why we are in the position we are in.

We continue to accept this crap.

When did Carlton become so pathetic

[LP]

Murphy and Gibbs are fine, early in the year Murphy was tackling as hard and ferocious as anyone. I suspect the change is that he is now carrying an injury.

I'm more worried about the general passiveness of our list, initially the young kids seemed to show aggression, there were clear signs we stuck up for each other. But as the year progressed they have become more and more submissive, they too could be carrying injuries we don't know about. In the absence of ACoS it seems Daisy is now about the most aggressive player we have!

Probably the only player who has progressed in the positive direction is Charlie Curnow, it's clear he isn't happy getting picked off at the edge of the herd! When opposition attempt to bully or push him about he goes up a gear, which is the right thing to do if you want to avoid being a victim!

I'll be super pissed off if we find post season a bunch of these kids have been played injured barely before they stopped growing!

[PaulP]

When Bolton came on board, part of his reset was to assess the captaincy and leadership group. I don't remember the exact process, but Murph was voted back in as the Captain, with I believe, Bolton's full backing.

Now whether you think this process was fair dinkum or a load of PR mumbo jumbo is up to you.

It's the Casboult principle - we play Murph and Gibbs, and make them Captain / Vice Captain, because other potential candidates are too young or unsuitable. I.e, there really isn't anyone else at this point.

[PaulP]

http://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/2016-02...generation

[Lods]

Question is.... have things changed twelve months down the track?
I'd like to see a change...I even wonder whether Murphy wouldn't mind being relieved of the captaincy.

[PaulP]

Question is.... have things changed twelve months down the track?
I'd like to see a change...I even wonder whether Murphy wouldn't mind being relieved of the captaincy.

We'll know soon enough.

[IvanAwfulbigone]

I'll be super pissed off if we find post season a bunch of these kids have been played injured barely before they stopped growing!

I think that's exactly what you'll find. I know BB expects players to play through the pain (subject to team doctor approval) - it was the Clarkson/Hawthorn mantra as well which was fine with seasoned bodies or with players like Hodge who have fewer neurons. Weitering is still 19. 19!!! Yet he's been poleaxed by monsters week in week out. Hardly been the same since he nearly broke his neck saving that goal last year.

Also of concern to me are the observations that, once again, it was "boys v. men" on Saturday night. Weren't we saying this 5 years ago? ... 10 years ago? Sheesh, we just can't get the recruiting mix right. Words fail me.

[PaulP]

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/pa...xln9u.html

MRP, are you there ?

[flyboy77]

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/pa...xln9u.html

[flyboy77]

I think that's exactly what you'll find. I know BB expects players to play through the pain (subject to team doctor approval) - it was the Clarkson/Hawthorn mantra as well which was fine with seasoned bodies or with players like Hodge who have fewer neurons. Weitering is still 19. 19!!! Yet he's been poleaxed by monsters week in week out. Hardly been the same since he nearly broke his neck saving that goal last year.

Also of concern to me are the observations that, once again, it was "boys v. men" on Saturday night. Weren't we saying this 5 years ago? ... 10 years ago? Sheesh, we just can't get the recruiting mix right. Words fail me.

Who was monstering him? Hawkins?

Its a tough, hard game. If he's injured - agreed, get him off the park. if he's right to go, he plays.

His problems are mostly between his ears right now imo.