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(06-27-2017, 09:31 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Jack is a 3rd tall forward who will be more effective when we get two decent KP Forwards who are the main targets...Jack isnt quick but is a footballer rather than an athlete who relies on smarts and nous to get the job done. He was no superstar at U18 level so the high expectations are based on the Silvagni name rather than his initial abilities and form.
I think he has to work hard to be a better player as he isnt a gifted player who can live off talent alone but I think he can and will...
Cheers mate. Good points. I think you summed him up well.
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(06-27-2017, 06:26 AM)Pratty link Wrote:I'd with something along the liens of:
B: Pickett, Jones, Plowman
Hb: Docherty, Weitering, Simpson
C: E.Curnow, Cripps, Cuningham
Hf: C.Curnow, Marchbank, Fisher
F: Wright, Casboult, J.Silvagni
Foll: Kreuzer, Gibbs
Rov: Murphy
I/c: Palmer, Thomas, Petrevski-Seton, Lamb
Emerg: Polson, Sheehan, Smedts
Out - Graham, Boekhorst, Smedts
In - Cuningham, Fisher, Palmer
*Not sure on Jed Lamb and his concussion. Think Tom Williamson and Alex Silvagni are both another week away availability-wise at AFL level.
**Jarrod Pickett as a small defender.
***Caleb Marchbank given a run forward. Pickett as a small defender? Are kidding? He is a lazy little feck who has a very long way to go. Our defenders have been feral in their work rate this year, he wasnt feral in work last week for 30 seconds. No thanks, back to the twos and take a leaf out of LJ's book.
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(06-27-2017, 09:19 AM)John Corey link Wrote:Hey guys I just wanted to get everyone's thoughts on Jack Silvagni. I'm a big Sydney Roosters fan as well and live in Qld, so you guys are definitely closer to the Club than I am.
I wanted to know if you guys think Jack is the answer was a forward. I know I risk being hung and quartered, speaking about such a great Carlton family, but he just seems so slow to me. I would have thought speed off the mark would play a big part in leading for the ball? I get that he is young, but you don't 'learn' speed. I don't think he is a great kick either but that IS something that can be taught.
Anyway, I'm happy to get smashed here. Would like your thoughts.
Good on you, JC Old Son for having a go and taking a risk. Jack aint his dad in many, many respects but he does work hard and he thinks like a footballer. If his name was Jack Smith, not related to anyone at the club (my personal litmus test), you'd like what you see in terms of a 3rd tall with footy smarts who'd deliver more if assisted by a better midfield than we have at present. I just wish the marketing dept would ignore him for a while and let him be a player and not a pin-up boy, though I suspect mum and dad have helped him to understand that marketing and PR are important for selling but devoid of character and substance... so never believe the hype.
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back to the good old days replacing spuds with spuds. We out spudded Richmond last week lets do it against Crows as well.
Out: Pickett SPS
In: McKay Buckley
B: Docherty Jones Weitering
HB: Plowman Marchbank Simpson
C: Buckley Cripps Boekhorst
HF: Thomas McKay Wright
F: Curnow Casboult Murphy
R: Kreuzer Gibbs Curnow
Int: Smedts Silvagni Lamb Graham
Forward line is a problem and time for Murphy to lead from the front - leading the side from the forward line because we need someone to do precisely that. Every line has leadership except forward line and leave Thomas and Murphy there to guide Curnow, Silvagni and McKay for rest of year.
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(06-27-2017, 11:25 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Pickett as a small defender? Are kidding? He is a lazy little feck who has a very long way to go. Our defenders have been feral in their work rate this year, he wasnt feral in work last week for 30 seconds. No thanks, back to the twos and take a leaf out of LJ's book.
Agreed - he likes the easy one over the top and bolting away into space ..... he wouldn't like defending at all.
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(06-27-2017, 11:25 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Pickett as a small defender? Are kidding? He is a lazy little feck who has a very long way to go. Our defenders have been feral in their work rate this year, he wasnt feral in work last week for 30 seconds. No thanks, back to the twos and take a leaf out of LJ's book.
No not kidding. This is how to get his work rate up. See Liam Jones. Your reaction is the EXACT sort of reaction two years ago I got on here when I suggested that we move Liam Jones to defence. That's been a horrible decision hasn't it! Deja vu! Ha!! ;D
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(06-27-2017, 09:31 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Jack is a 3rd tall forward who will be more effective when we get two decent KP Forwards who are the main targets...Jack isnt quick but is a footballer rather than an athlete who relies on smarts and nous to get the job done. He was no superstar at U18 level so the high expectations are based on the Silvagni name rather than his initial abilities and form.
I think he has to work hard to be a better player as he isnt a gifted player who can live off talent alone but I think he can and will...
Think he'll become a midfielder in time. Clearance beast!
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Im going easy on Pickett.
Interupted pre season, hasnt really settled into life as an AFL footballer that well to this stage. This season was always going to be a "building exposure, learning" year for him.
They cant all be Marchbank and even he has been a bit down on how he started.
Patience blues fans, we are building something and its not going to happen quickly but every so often the train will get a glimpse of the station ahead and think its arrived only to figure out that its at the top of the next hill or even a few after this one.
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(06-27-2017, 11:34 PM)Thryleon link Wrote:Im going easy on Pickett.
Interupted pre season, hasnt really settled into life as an AFL footballer that well to this stage. This season was always going to be a "building exposure, learning" year for him.
They cant all be Marchbank and even he has been a bit down on how he started.
Patience blues fans, we are building something and its not going to happen quickly but every so often the train will get a glimpse of the station ahead and think its arrived only to figure out that its at the top of the next hill or even a few after this one.
With you on this Thry. I'll pay more attention to Pickett next year.
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(06-27-2017, 11:02 PM)Pratty link Wrote:Think he'll become a midfielder in time. Clearance beast! Certainly Jack spent more time in the midfield at Xavier than he did as a forward.
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