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(05-23-2015, 04:02 AM)blue4life link Wrote:I'm saying that he came at a very high price and ultimately the club won't achieve success while he's a Carlton player, I'm not for a moment questioning his ability or commitment to the club.
We were miles off being a Premiership contender when we recruited Judd and one player was never going to make the difference no matter how good he was, we should have shown patience but it was as much about marketing and membership as it was about winning premierships.
So if we had our time again, you wouldn't go through with the Judd trade ?
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(05-23-2015, 04:11 AM)PaulP link Wrote:So if we had our time again, you wouldn't go through with the Judd trade ?
No, and I wouldn't have traded pick 7 last year either, or paid a squillion for Thomas.
Tom Bell is playing as well as anyone at the moment and he came out of Queensland onto the rookie list, and barring injury he'll be at the club for 10 years plus.
But where are our current ten year players?
Simpson, Carrazzo, Walker and..................?
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(05-23-2015, 04:20 AM)blue4life link Wrote:No, and I wouldn't have traded pick 7 last year either, or paid a squillion for Thomas.
Tom Bell is playing as well as anyone at the moment and he came out of Queensland onto the rookie list, and barring injury he'll be at the club for 10 years plus.
But where are our current ten year players?
Simpson, Carrazzo, Walker and..................?
I agree about pick 7 last year, and I agree about Daisy. But the Judd deal was well worth it IMO. Agree to disagree.
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(05-23-2015, 04:23 AM)PaulP link Wrote:I agree about pick 7 last year, and I agree about Daisy. But the Judd deal was well worth it IMO. Agree to disagree.
No problems, but Josh Kennedy would be handy about now.
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(05-23-2015, 04:02 AM)Brettie link Wrote:I'm kinda thankful we're playing in Sydney next week, solves the conundrum of whether or not to attend....... What have we become B Man :-[
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(05-23-2015, 04:30 AM)blue4life link Wrote:No problems, but Josh Kennedy would be handy about now. Really? I'm not sure I understand what you mean. Are you saying if we had JK we wouldn't be in the predicament we are in? Or are you saying put him in our side next week and we would win? The way we are playing now? Not even JC would help us let alone JK. And I say to you also that it is very likely JK would not have developed as much if he stayed with us.
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(05-23-2015, 04:30 AM)blue4life link Wrote:No problems, but Josh Kennedy would be handy about now.
Reckon JK would be standing in the F50 like a spare p&*ck at a Jewish wedding waiting for some decent delivery from our boys. In a better world, I would've wanted both Judd and JK.
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(05-22-2015, 01:23 PM)MosquitoFleet link Wrote:Agree....I will pay my membership and attend all games...this year and next year....and the year after....and so on.
The question is are they are wasting your money?
I think they need a hit of reality, free of the saviors they have had in the past, the millionaire and billionaire meddlers, before they get serious about it!
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(05-23-2015, 04:35 AM)PaulP link Wrote:I would've wanted both Judd and JK.
Judd's a broken man now, I've never seen him this way before, it's over for him. They talked him into playing on then announced an "R" word(Flubbo is ROTFL every time he sees a shot of The Judge on TV! EFC couldn't be sunk with 40,000 syringes, but Flubbo sunk Carlton with one "R" word!).
If I was Judd I'd be seriously pissed off with the club, I suspect that "R" decision has made him a Wet Toast player for life and I am not sure that is where he wanted to be! 
Our list sold him up the river, instead of copying his example they left him hung out to dry, they didn't stick fat why should we?
And feck me dead, on last night game plan, Chris Judd tagging really???
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(05-23-2015, 04:34 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Really? I'm not sure I understand what you mean. Are you saying if we had JK we wouldn't be in the predicament we are in? Or are you saying put him in our side next week and we would win? The way we are playing now? Not even JC would help us let alone JK.
I'm saying none of those things.
What I'm trying to say is that Judd will be gone at the end of this season and we need to rebuild our list, and a 27 year old gun key forward is something you can rebuild around.
We jumped the gun with Judd and thought we were nearing a Premiership window, Sticks was still talking flags a couple of years ago but we haven't had a Premiership winning list or anything like it since the 1990's.
Judd has pulled in members and sponsorships and helped clean up our image but the only long term way to do all of those things is to win flags, and we haven't come anywhere near winning one since he came to us.
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