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Hall of fame - Goodes - capcom - 06-08-2021
Sook.
Re: Hall of fame - Goodes - Mav - 06-08-2021
Good on him. Crowds were disgraceful and the AFL was too gutless or oblivious to act. Now Gil wants his bother to gush over Goodes and the AFL’s commitment to indigenous footballers.
Re: Hall of fame - Goodes - kruddler - 06-08-2021
(06-08-2021, 01:03 PM)Mav link Wrote:Good on him. Crowds were disgraceful and the AFL was too gutless or oblivious to act. Now Gil wants his bother to gush over Goodes and the AFL’s commitment to indigenous footballers.
Crowds were disgraceful to figjam too......but he's a different colour so thats ok.
Re: Hall of fame - Goodes - Mav - 06-08-2021
We also need to get around white men who are victimised for being white. Fair’s fair.
Re: Hall of fame - Goodes - Gointocarlton - 06-08-2021
As Eddie Betts said tonight:
Respect the decision, unless you been racially abused you dont understand how deep it cuts (and continues to cut for the rest of your life).
Re: Hall of fame - Goodes - DJC - 06-08-2021
(06-08-2021, 01:13 PM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:As Eddie Betts said tonight:
Respect the decision, unless you been racially abused you dont understand how deep it cuts (and continues to cut for the rest of your life).
Perfectly summed up by Eddie yet folk will continue to maintain that the vilification of Goodes wasn't racist.
Re: Hall of fame - Goodes - madbluboy - 06-09-2021
The whole SCG crowd booed Buddy Franklin the year before they got him.
Goodes didn't say anything.
Re: Hall of fame - Goodes - Thryleon - 06-09-2021
(06-08-2021, 01:13 PM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:As Eddie Betts said tonight:
Respect the decision, unless you been racially abused you dont understand how deep it cuts (and continues to cut for the rest of your life).
Agree with that.
Although, some of the rhetoric around him being booed out of the game is drawing a very long bow.
I remember Goodes last game against North Melbourne. It was a semi final, and he looked a long way off the pace, and I thought he was very much done with footy.
The only thing I cannot quantify about him was how much the booing effected his want to be there, but even so, he didnt look like he could continue at the level anyway. He was almost 36 when he retired.
There aren't too many that go on for that long and remain at a high level.
Re: Hall of fame - Goodes - PaulP - 06-09-2021
Not all booing is created equally. Crowds boo for many different reasons. I suspect in Goodes' case, the shorthand phrase "booing" is about much more than just that simple sound.
Re: Hall of fame - Goodes - LP - 06-09-2021
(06-09-2021, 12:59 AM)PaulP date Wrote:Not all booing is created equally. Crowds boo for many different reasons. I suspect in Goodes' case, the shorthand phrase "booing" is about much more than just that simple sound.Yes, I agree with most perspectives on this issue, but I find it hard to detangle the motives. It's clearly not true all those booing are racist, and it's clearly not true that all those booing aren't racist. It's clear Goodes is correct about racism, but it's clear Goodes is incorrect about the root cause of all the booing.
If Adam hadn't slid studs up into opponents, if he hadn't thrown himself on the ground free of any physical contact, if he hadn't directly denied doing those things to camera despite the obvious footage, would the situation have become as bad as it did?
I've heard it asserted Goodes used those "obvious denials" purely as a bait to flush out racism, but I think that is a revisionist claim that surfaced long after the other initial aspects of this debate.