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Some more thoughts from the 'Pros' - flyboy77 - 03-07-2018
Reader's pick: 15th
Experts' picksRANK
Jake Niall17th
Michael Gleeson17th
Peter Ryan15th
Jon Pierik15th
Daniel Cherny12th
Warwick Green17th
Quote:
Why they can make the eight
The Blues will hope for eight wins this year, which means the finals are a further four unexpected victories away. That looks like a big leap but, remember, they lost six matches by 19 points or less last season. If Jacob Weitering, Sam Petrevski-Seton and Charlie Curnow can become consistent, strong performers and Harry McKay kicks goals, the Blues could build momentum quickly.
Quote:Why they can't make the eight
There is still so much work to be done. The Blues had only seven wins in 2016 and six last year, including one from their final 10 matches. This list does boast great promise but it is still too early to expect a consistent, hardened side. Sam Docherty's absence is a major blow.
Jon Pierik
Re: Some more thoughts from the 'Pros' - northernblue - 03-07-2018
You expect them to proclaim us as flag favorites ?
Re: Some more thoughts from the 'Pros' - PaulP - 03-07-2018
Both the readers and the experts have us bottom 4, except Cherny, which IMO is about right. No Docherty, lots of kids, new game plan, half a forward line. On paper and recent form, I'm not sure what other conclusion one could reach.
Re: Some more thoughts from the 'Pros' - flyboy77 - 03-07-2018
No, but I'm amazed the Pies, Saints and Hawks consistently get rated ahead of us.....
Re: Some more thoughts from the 'Pros' - PaulP - 03-07-2018
(03-07-2018, 10:24 PM)flyboy77 link Wrote:No, but I'm amazed the Pies, Saints and Hawks consistently get rated ahead of us.....
Predictions of various types usually err on the conservative side. This fact, plus other aspects regarding the way predictions are made, mean that it's not unreasonable to rate those sides above us.
Re: Some more thoughts from the 'Pros' - flyboy77 - 03-07-2018
(03-07-2018, 10:47 PM)PaulP link Wrote:Predictions of various types usually err on the conservative side. This fact, plus other aspects regarding the way predictions are made, mean that it's not unreasonable to rate those sides above us.
Because of Eddie's influence, no one in the media will ever stick the knives into the Pies as they repeatedly do to us....
Hawks get extra points because of their recent premiership history, not their current list.
Saints, well meh.
Re: Some more thoughts from the 'Pros' - ElwoodBlues1 - 03-07-2018
Even with Docherty missing I think the club would want to be out of the bottom 4 at seasons end, no-one expects finals but if you are selling a rebuild/progress we need more wins than last season where we went backwards.
Re: Some more thoughts from the 'Pros' - PaulP - 03-08-2018
(03-07-2018, 10:55 PM)flyboy77 link Wrote:Because of Eddie's influence, no one in the media will ever stick the knives into the Pies as they repeatedly do to us....
Hawks get extra points because of their recent premiership history, not their current list.
Saints, well meh.
All three of those teams OUGHT to finish above us. Saints have a more mature list, in development for longer. Also looks like McCartin might play. Pies - well who knows ? The list is unbalanced IMO, but they have enough talent and experience to justify the higher rating compared to us. And the Hawks have Clarkson plus (more importantly) Ratts, plus runs on the board, so once again, maybe not finals, but they won't bottom out IMO.
I wouldn't worry about predictions. The real world has a way of making them seem gossamer and irrelevant. Some teams will perform as expected, some will disappear up their own ar$e$, and some will come from nowhere and surprise everyone.
Re: Some more thoughts from the 'Pros' - BluePhantom - 03-08-2018
Every expert football media person had the Tiggers and Doggies shoe in favourites to win the flag over the last two years.
Always has been and always will be crystal ball stuff.
No one looks back at what they said at the end of the season.
Internally the boys have goals to meet, do you job and the results will come.
Go NEW BLUES!
Re: Some more thoughts from the 'Pros' - DJC - 03-08-2018
(03-07-2018, 11:52 PM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Even with Docherty missing I think the club would want to be out of the bottom 4 at seasons end, no-one expects finals but if you are selling a rebuild/progress we need more wins than last season where we went backwards.
Yes, there will be pressure to perform and I imagine there will be more effort from the coaching staff and players to win the close games.
I reckon Cherny has got our prospects nailed.