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Another School Shooting in the US - mateinone - 02-15-2018
So today America is facing yet another horrific school shooting in a country which has seen about 1 per week for the last 4 years. This one is a big one with 16-17 confirmed dead.
What personally hit me at the core is that it was in the the town ranked the 3rd safest in Florida. When we were living over there I was lucky and had a job where they let me live wherever I wanted in the country, as long as I was within an hour to the airport if I was needed onsite at a customer. So one of the main things we done was looked at City Data for each town we were considering. After choosing the type of environment we wanted (ie beaches/mountains/big city/location to International Airport etc), Safety and School ratings were the 2 single biggest factors. Because your kids MUST go to a good school in the US or you make life so much harder and your house has to be zoned to the school or you are out of luck and of course safety, because... well if you have ever been around suburban USA you will know how important this is and how much difference 5 minutes travel can make.
So here you have a town that would have certainly met the criteria for us (ie I wanted to live near a beach, though wife was hell bent on Colorado), was safe and had a greatschools rating of 8/10.
It is not the first time of course as both Littleton (Columbine) and Newtown (Sandy Hook) are affluent suburbs above the state average levels.
So it is clear that I was as delusional as anyone else when there that you have to just do the best you can do, because even that doesn't cut it.
When will Americans ever put their kids before the right to own a ridiculous firearm that by being allowed to own, they also allow the person down the street with untold mental issues to own? When will they give that shit up for the safety of everyone?
I know it is NEVER, but it just seems so insane
Re: Another School Shooting in the US - PaulP - 02-15-2018
I agree with you. Some cultural habits and expectations are so entrenched, it's like moving heaven and earth to effect change.
Obviously, these things should never happen anywhere, but if they are going to happen, they will happen in the US, which in my view, is paradoxically the very best and the very worst the world has to offer, all rolled into one.
Re: Another School Shooting in the US - DJC - 02-15-2018
These senseless massacres are so common in the US (apparently this is the 19th mass shooting of 2018) that it’s becoming harder to feel sympathy for the victims and their families.
I can imagine people bleating that it wouldn’t happen if the school had armed guards :
If they had real leaders, the problem would be addressed.
Re: Another School Shooting in the US - mateinone - 02-15-2018
(02-15-2018, 05:07 AM)DJC link Wrote:These senseless massacres are so common in the US (apparently this is the 19th mass shooting of 2018) that it’s becoming harder to feel sympathy for the victims and their families.
I can imagine people bleating that it wouldn’t happen if the school had armed guards :
If they had real leaders, the problem would be addressed.
That line has been trotted out previously. It obviously fails to acknowledge the root problem, which the rest of the world and maybe 40% of the US can see it also, but the rest of the US and importantly those that make the decisions can't and/or are way to afraid to challenge the extremely powerful NRA.
As for feeling for the victims, I hope that never leaves me personally. A tragic loss of a life is a tragic loss and kids should be able to go to school in Syria, Nigeria, Afghanistan, the US, UK, Australia all the same. Regardless of decisions their parents support, also it is still tragic if someone who opposes gun control is senselessly murdered.
I hope they find a way to sort this out, because you are right Paul, it is the best & worst in that society. I love the US, I found the people some of the friendliest I have met anywhere in the world, it would just be a million times better without the gun problem
Re: Another School Shooting in the US - cookie2 - 02-15-2018
Interested to read recently about the US constitution which is very strong on protecting the people from oppression and tyranny, including that which could arise from the government. The scarring experiences suffered during the George III regime shaped such a distrust of government that the right to bear arms for citizen protection became paramount. Today of course this seems rather pointless in view of the weaponry the government could theoretically deploy against the populace but it is not going to be given up easily. I can't see things changing any time soon.
Re: Another School Shooting in the US - DJC - 02-15-2018
It seems that it is the 29th mass shooting of 2018, not 19 as I stated above. I wonder what it will take before the ‘right to bear arms’ is addressed?
Re: Another School Shooting in the US - spf - 02-15-2018
(02-15-2018, 06:47 AM)DJC link Wrote:It seems that it is the 29th mass shooting of 2018, not 19 as I stated above. I wonder what it will take before the ‘right to bear arms’ is addressed?
I wonder what it will take before the issues within their society are addressed? Symptoms and causes.
Re: Another School Shooting in the US - kruddler - 02-15-2018
(02-15-2018, 09:33 AM)spf link Wrote:I wonder what it will take before the issues within their society are addressed? Symptoms and causes.
A nuclear bomb and a fresh start.
Anything short of that and we won't see a change in our lifetime. Too ingrained in their culture.
Re: Another School Shooting in the US - cookie2 - 02-15-2018
The Decline and Fall of the American Empire?
Rotting from within?
Re: Another School Shooting in the US - spf - 02-15-2018
(02-15-2018, 10:28 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:The Decline and Fall of the American Empire?
Rotting from within?
I have thought that for awhile. America's legions will soon enough come home.