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The Blame Game - Printable Version +- Carlton Supporters Club (http://new.carltonsc.com) +-- Forum: Around The Grounds (http://new.carltonsc.com/forum-7.html) +--- Forum: The Sports Desk (http://new.carltonsc.com/forum-27.html) +--- Thread: The Blame Game (/thread-3606.html) Pages:
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The Blame Game - LP - 01-26-2018 Interesting comments from Wozniacki's husband David Lee, gives you a real insight into the mind of some professional sports people. Talking about his wife's solo responsibilities as a tennis player; Quote:"It's gotta be lonely because you don't have anyone to blame it on. Wow, just wow, no wonder these people have fat heads. I feel that little quote tells me so much about sporting and corporate psychopaths! It's always somebody else's fault. Reminds me of a certain Ex.AFL player and his downfall! How do these morons become so successful? Re: The Blame Game - LoveNavy - 01-27-2018 (01-26-2018, 10:39 AM)LP link Wrote:Interesting comments from Wozniacki's husband David Lee, gives you a real insight into the mind of some professional sports people. I think it speaks to the highly competitive nature of such sports. The environment becomes overloaded with expectations and some will internalize this as pressure. In vulnerable individuals, one can lose one's self. Resulting in a detour from genuine connectedness. That is, disconnection with self and other. Some use the analogy of where one's head resides.... Sadly, some of these individuals fail to reconnect living life as a detached 'untouchable'. At the extreme and if stable over time, Yes, you are seeing narcissistic and psychopathic traits. Fascinating stuff indeed LP... Re: The Blame Game - LP - 01-27-2018 (01-27-2018, 11:20 AM)LoveNavy link Wrote:I think it speaks to the highly competitive nature of such sports. The environment becomes overloaded with expectations and some will internalize this as pressure. In vulnerable individuals, one can lose one's self. Resulting in a detour from genuine connectedness. That is, disconnection with self and other. Some use the analogy of where one's head resides.... It's a little bit of a blight on the rest of us that we allow these traits to persist at the highest levels, and our hypocrisy in labelling these people as roll models when they are far from it. I think societies lack of action says something about the general human condition. Look at AFL which is dominated by Pudding Faces and Ice Poles, dare I even mention tennis at this time! Re: The Blame Game - kruddler - 01-28-2018 (01-27-2018, 11:46 PM)LP link Wrote:Not sure we have anything to do with the traits of people who become elite. Fact is that it is usually those very traits that allowed them to climb to elite status. You have to be selfish. The issue of role models is another story. Re: The Blame Game - cookie2 - 01-28-2018 People succeed in organisations primarily by successfully meeting the goals set for them. Some of the more successful people in some organisations may leave a lot to be desired by normal social standards as far as their behaviour towards others etc. are concerned. That to me tells all about the culture of the organisations they thrive in. Re: The Blame Game - ElwoodBlues1 - 01-28-2018 Tennis is one sport where you can be a winner by being a good looking loser....... Re: The Blame Game - cookie2 - 01-28-2018 (01-28-2018, 06:18 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Tennis is one sport where you can be a winner by being a good looking loser....... Dragging in the punters would be very important. Re: The Blame Game - LoveNavy - 01-28-2018 (01-27-2018, 11:46 PM)LP link Wrote:It's a little bit of a blight on the rest of us that we allow these traits to persist at the highest levels, and our hypocrisy in labelling these people as roll models when they are far from it. I hear you LP. Only this stuff generally develops and consolidates within the context of one's upbringing. Once that happens you're dealing with fairly pervasive personality traits. Tough gig, even for the 'expert's, to shift then. In some ways it's the essence of diversity, complete with flairs and foibles... I think Kruddler's comments were on the money. Unfortunately I don't know how to paste them in :-[ Re: The Blame Game - kruddler - 01-29-2018 (01-28-2018, 08:34 AM)LoveNavy link Wrote:I hear you LP. Only this stuff generally develops and consolidates within the context of one's upbringing. Once that happens you're dealing with fairly pervasive personality traits. Tough gig, even for the 'expert's, to shift then. In some ways it's the essence of diversity, complete with flairs and foibles... When you 'reply' scroll down and you'll see all the previous comments below. Top right of each comment has a button with "insert quote". Thats how you insert multiple quotes. Alternatively, you can quote in another window and cut+paste it in, but the first method is easiest. Re: The Blame Game - LoveNavy - 01-29-2018 (01-28-2018, 08:34 AM)LoveNavy link Wrote:I hear you LP. Only this stuff generally develops and consolidates within the context of one's upbringing. Once that happens you're dealing with fairly pervasive personality traits. Tough gig, even for the 'expert's, to shift then. In some ways it's the essence of diversity, complete with flairs and foibles... (01-29-2018, 06:45 AM)kruddler link Wrote:When you 'reply' scroll down and you'll see all the previous comments below. Top right of each comment has a button with "insert quote". By golly. That's seriously easy. Even for those with low IT IQ ;D Thanks Kruddler. |