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Age & talent profile - Tragic - 10-20-2017

Our list was widely recognised as being unbalanced in terms of age and ability going back a few years.  Just thought I'd try my hand at putting something together, and seeing what people think.  I'll do it by player number order.  Age is a roughy, simply subtracting year of birth from 2017.  For their ratings, it was done pretty quick and dirty, and is open for discussion.  A bit of gut feel applied to how much impact they had this year (a combo of ability, games played, injury etc...). And then having a guess at how they'll progress in the next 2 years.

Player          Age    Games    2017  2018  2019+ Potential
J Silvagni      20      28          C          B      B
M Murphy    30      236          A          A      B
Sammo        19      20          C          B      A     
Simmo        33        286        B          B      C
Kreuz          28        161        A          A      A
Cripper        22        59          B          A        A
Big H            20        2            D          C        B 
Sam K          24        59          C          C        C
Boeky          24        25          C          B        B
Jed              25        48          C          B        B
Liam            26        95          B          A        A
Doc              24        92          A          A        A
Billie            25        47          D          B        B
Rowey          30        82          C          D        C     
Plow            23        60          B          B        B
Marchy        21        23          B          B        A
Weiters        20        42          C          B        A
Fishboy        19        17          C          B        B 
Harrison        19        8            C          C        B 
Cunners        20        11          C          B        A
Polson          19        1            D          C        C
Charlie          20        27          B          A        A
Willo            19        15          C          B        B
Nick              23        38          C          C        C
Pickett          21        10          C            B        A
Phillips          26        31          D            C        B
Ed                28        122        C          B        B
Kerr              19          0          D          C        C
Byrne            23          15          D          C        B
Daisy            30          218        B          B        C
Levi              27          94        B          B        B
Whitey          29          87        C          C        C
Wrighty        28          138        B          B        B

JGM              20          0          D          C          C
Kym            19            0          D          C          C
ASOS            30          60        C          B          C

Lang            21          44        n/a      B          B
Lobbe          28          92        n/a      C          C
BamBam      20          19          n/a      B          A

Pick 3            18          0          n/a        C          B
Pick 10          18          0          n/a        ?          ?







Re: Age & talent profile - Tragic - 10-20-2017

woops - i seem to have pressed the wrong keys and posted before getting any of it written up... 

hint - don't hit the tab key (hoping to line up a table into neat columns) and then press enter.  It submits your post.


Re: Age & talent profile - crashlander - 10-21-2017

(10-20-2017, 11:50 PM)Tragic link Wrote:Our list was widely recognised as being unbalanced in terms of age and ability going back a few years.  Just thought I'd try my hand at putting something together, and seeing what people think.  I'll do it by player number order.  Age is a roughy, simply subtracting year of birth from 2017.  For their ratings, it was done pretty quick and dirty, and is open for discussion.  A bit of gut feel applied to how much impact they had this year (a combo of ability, games played, injury etc...). And then having a guess at how they'll progress in the next 2 years.

Player          Age    Games    2017  2018  2019+ Potential
J Silvagni      20      28          C          B      B
M Murphy    30      236          A          A      B
Sammo        19      20          C          B      A     
Simmo        33        286        B          B      C
Kreuz          28        161        A          A      A
Cripper        22        59          B          A        A
Big H            20        2            D          C        B 
Sam K          24        59          C          C        C
Boeky          24        25          C          B        B
Jed              25        48          C          B        B
Liam            26        95          B          A        A
Doc              24        92          A          A        A
Billie            25        47          D          B        B
Rowey          30        82          C          D        C     
Plow            23        60          B          B        B
Marchy        21        23          B          B        A
Weiters        20        42          C          B        A
Fishboy        19        17          C          B        B 
Harrison        19        8            C          C        B 
Cunners        20        11          C          B        A
Polson          19        1            D          C        C
Charlie          20        27          B          A        A
Willo            19        15          C          B        B
Nick              23        38          C          C        C
Pickett          21        10          C            B        A
Phillips          26        31          D            C        B
Ed                28        122        C          B        B
Kerr              19          0          D          C        C
Byrne            23          15          D          C        B
Daisy            30          218        B          B        C
Levi              27          94        B          B        B
Whitey          29          87        C          C        C
Wrighty        28          138        B          B        B

JGM              20          0          D          C          C
Kym            19            0          D          C          C
ASOS            30          60        C          B          C

Lang            21          44        n/a      B          B
Lobbe          28          92        n/a      C          C
BamBam      20          19          n/a      B          A

Pick 3            18          0          n/a        C          B
Pick 10          18          0          n/a        ?          ?
Nice work, although I did find it hard to identify everyone. Smile If the guys improve as you suggest, then we could be a very daunting prospect in 2019 and beyond.


Re: Age & talent profile - mateinone - 10-21-2017

I admit I found it a bit hard to read and to work out who each player was also with the nicknames and some surnames etc.
I have put the data through a tool on my computer to help with the formatting. I changed the names to be the standard surnames for. I haven't changed any of the ratings, Just thought having it more readable might generate more discussion.
Hope that is okay Tragic

[table]
[tr][td]Player          [/td][td] Age [/td][td][color=red] Games [/td][td][color=red] 2017 [/td][td][color=red]  2018 [/td][td][color=red]2019+  [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]J Silvagni      [/td][td]  20 [/td][td][color=blue]    28 [/td][td][color=blue]    C [/td][td][color=blue]    B [/td][td][color=blue]    B [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Murphy          [/td][td]  30 [/td][td][color=blue]  236 [/td][td][color=blue]    A [/td][td][color=blue]    A [/td][td][color=blue]    B [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Petrevski-Seton [/td][td]  19 [/td][td][color=blue]    20 [/td][td][color=blue]    C [/td][td][color=blue]    B [/td][td][color=blue]    A [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Simpson        [/td][td]  33 [/td][td][color=blue]  286 [/td][td][color=blue]    B [/td][td][color=blue]    B [/td][td][color=blue]    C [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Kreuzer        [/td][td]  28 [/td][td][color=blue]  161 [/td][td][color=blue]    A [/td][td][color=blue]    A [/td][td][color=blue]    A [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Cripps          [/td][td]  22 [/td][td][color=blue]    59 [/td][td][color=blue]    B [/td][td][color=blue]    A [/td][td][color=blue]    A [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]McKay          [/td][td]  20 [/td][td][color=blue]    2 [/td][td][color=blue]    D [/td][td][color=blue]    C [/td][td][color=blue]    B [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Kerridge        [/td][td]  24 [/td][td][color=blue]    59 [/td][td][color=blue]    C [/td][td][color=blue]    C [/td][td][color=blue]    C [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Boekhurst      [/td][td]  24 [/td][td][color=blue]    25 [/td][td][color=blue]    C [/td][td][color=blue]    B [/td][td][color=blue]    B [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Lamb            [/td][td]  25 [/td][td][color=blue]    48 [/td][td][color=blue]    C [/td][td][color=blue]    B [/td][td][color=blue]    B [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Jones          [/td][td]  26 [/td][td][color=blue]    95 [/td][td][color=blue]    B [/td][td][color=blue]    A [/td][td][color=blue]    A [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Docherty        [/td][td]  24 [/td][td][color=blue]    92 [/td][td][color=blue]    A [/td][td][color=blue]    A [/td][td][color=blue]    A [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Smedts          [/td][td]  25 [/td][td][color=blue]    47 [/td][td][color=blue]    D [/td][td][color=blue]    B [/td][td][color=blue]    B [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Rowe            [/td][td]  30 [/td][td][color=blue]    82 [/td][td][color=blue]    C [/td][td][color=blue]    D [/td][td][color=blue]    C [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Plowman        [/td][td]  23 [/td][td][color=blue]    60 [/td][td][color=blue]    B [/td][td][color=blue]    B [/td][td][color=blue]    B [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Marchbank      [/td][td]  21 [/td][td][color=blue]    23 [/td][td][color=blue]    B [/td][td][color=blue]    B [/td][td][color=blue]    A [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Weitering      [/td][td]  20 [/td][td][color=blue]    42 [/td][td][color=blue]    C [/td][td][color=blue]    B [/td][td][color=blue]    A [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Fisher          [/td][td]  19 [/td][td][color=blue]    17 [/td][td][color=blue]    C [/td][td][color=blue]    B [/td][td][color=blue]    B [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Macreadie      [/td][td]  19 [/td][td][color=blue]    8 [/td][td][color=blue]    C [/td][td][color=blue]    C [/td][td][color=blue]    B [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Cunningham      [/td][td]  20 [/td][td][color=blue]    11 [/td][td][color=blue]    C [/td][td][color=blue]    B [/td][td][color=blue]    A [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Polson          [/td][td]  19 [/td][td][color=blue]    1 [/td][td][color=blue]    D [/td][td][color=blue]    C [/td][td][color=blue]    C [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]C Curnow        [/td][td]  20 [/td][td][color=blue]    27 [/td][td][color=blue]    B [/td][td][color=blue]    A [/td][td][color=blue]    A [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Williamson      [/td][td]  19 [/td][td][color=blue]    15 [/td][td][color=blue]    C [/td][td][color=blue]    B [/td][td][color=blue]    B [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Graham          [/td][td]  23 [/td][td][color=blue]    38 [/td][td][color=blue]    C [/td][td][color=blue]    C [/td][td][color=blue]    C [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Pickett        [/td][td]  21 [/td][td][color=blue]    10 [/td][td][color=blue]    C [/td][td][color=blue]    B [/td][td][color=blue]    A [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Phillips        [/td][td]  26 [/td][td][color=blue]    31 [/td][td][color=blue]    D [/td][td][color=blue]    C [/td][td][color=blue]    B [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]E Curnoww      [/td][td]  28 [/td][td][color=blue]  122 [/td][td][color=blue]    C [/td][td][color=blue]    B [/td][td][color=blue]    B [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Kerr            [/td][td]  19 [/td][td][color=blue]    0 [/td][td][color=blue]    D [/td][td][color=blue]    C [/td][td][color=blue]    C [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Byrne          [/td][td]  23 [/td][td][color=blue]    15 [/td][td][color=blue]    D [/td][td][color=blue]    C [/td][td][color=blue]    B [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Thomas          [/td][td]  30 [/td][td][color=blue]  218 [/td][td][color=blue]    B [/td][td][color=blue]    B [/td][td][color=blue]    C [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Casboult        [/td][td]  27 [/td][td][color=blue]    94 [/td][td][color=blue]    B [/td][td][color=blue]    B [/td][td][color=blue]    B [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]White          [/td][td]  29 [/td][td][color=blue]    87 [/td][td][color=blue]    C [/td][td][color=blue]    C [/td][td][color=blue]    C [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Wright          [/td][td]  28 [/td][td][color=blue]  138 [/td][td][color=blue]    B [/td][td][color=blue]    B [/td][td][color=blue]    B [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Rookies  [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Glass-McGasker  [/td][td]  20 [/td][td][color=blue]    0 [/td][td][color=blue]    D [/td][td][color=blue]    C [/td][td][color=blue]    C [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]LeBois          [/td][td]  19 [/td][td][color=blue]    0 [/td][td][color=blue]    D [/td][td][color=blue]    C [/td][td][color=blue]    C [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]A Silvagni      [/td][td]  30 [/td][td][color=blue]    60 [/td][td][color=blue]    C [/td][td][color=blue]    B [/td][td][color=blue]    C [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Traded   [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Lang            [/td][td]  21 [/td][td][color=blue]    44 [/td][td][color=blue]  n/a [/td][td][color=blue]    B [/td][td][color=blue]    B [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Lobbe          [/td][td]  28 [/td][td][color=blue]    92 [/td][td][color=blue]  n/a [/td][td][color=blue]    C [/td][td][color=blue]    C [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Kennedy        [/td][td]  20 [/td][td][color=blue]    19 [/td][td][color=blue]  n/a [/td][td][color=blue]    B [/td][td][color=blue]    A [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Draftees [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Pick 3          [/td][td]  18 [/td][td][color=blue]    0 [/td][td][color=blue]  n/a [/td][td][color=blue]    C [/td][td][color=blue]    B [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Pick 10        [/td][td]  18 [/td][td][color=blue]    0 [/td][td][color=blue]  n/a [/td][td][color=blue]    ? [/td][td][color=blue]    ? [/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Pick 30        [/td][td]  18 [/td][td][color=blue]    0 [/td][td][color=blue]  n/a [/td][td][color=blue]    ? [/td][td][color=blue]    ? [/td][/tr]
[/table]


Re: Age & talent profile - Tragic - 10-21-2017

thanks mateinone - that looks better.


Re: Age & talent profile - ianh - 10-21-2017

Okay, so I've worked out who everybody is except the last 3. Anyone know?


Re: Age & talent profile - PezzDogg95 - 11-10-2017

I mocked up a table with age & talent according to position to see where the club needed more depth, and the age profile of each position. (not sure if it uploaded, first time doing this).

[Image: eRuUg9.png]

This shows the need to rookie a young ruckman this year, and add some more depth across the board. Also shows we go about 28 deep at the moment and there should be competition for spots when healthy.

Age is based on how old they will be the majority of the 2018 season.


Re: Age & talent profile - mateinone - 11-10-2017

can you set a width on that image?
It isn't really readable


Re: Age & talent profile - PezzDogg95 - 11-10-2017

(11-10-2017, 02:12 AM)mateinone link Wrote:can you set a width on that image?
It isn't really readable

sorry should be fixed now


Re: Age & talent profile - LP - 11-10-2017

Wow, I didn't realise how young Kerr was, in fact I thought he was at the older end of things. Now I'm even more impressed with his efforts last season! :o Handing out some pain, rucking while under duress!

I don't think JGM is any more or less likely than say LeBios, Polson or Phillips. I think Macreadie has way more chance than the same set of players. That defensive group is virtually a coin toss based on fitness.

I wouldn't have Byrne or Lang as probable, they are also maybe at this stage. For example I doubt Mullett is any less chance than Byrne. Mullett has some real tricks, and has runs on the board at AFL level is a spud side!