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East West Tunnel - JonHenry - 03-01-2016
I hope Dan Andrews is caught up in this traffic.
Problem is it would make no difference to him.
What an utter waste of public funds. Ie our money.
Farking grub
Re: East West Tunnel - kruddler - 03-01-2016
(03-01-2016, 07:31 AM)JonHenry link Wrote:I hope Dan Andrews is caught up in this traffic.
Problem is it would make no difference to him.
What an utter waste of public funds. Ie our money.
Farking grub
Took me over 90 minutes to get home today (From Kew)....and i live in the north and was nowhere near the west gate and its holdups.
East west tunnel would work, but its a bandaid on a potentially lethal cut.
They need to heavily invest in PT and get all these cars off the road, then there will be less traffic and less traffic accidents!
Re: East West Tunnel - cookie2 - 03-01-2016
Sure we need more/better public transport but we also need the EW Link to handle the commercial road traffic, never mind private cars.
Re: East West Tunnel - JonHenry - 03-01-2016
(03-01-2016, 08:10 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Took me over 90 minutes to get home today (From Kew)....and i live in the north and was nowhere near the west gate and its holdups.
East west tunnel would work, but its a bandaid on a potentially lethal cut.
They need to heavily invest in PT and get all these cars off the road, then there will be less traffic and less traffic accidents!
Heavily invest?
We live in one of the biggest cities in the world area wise.
We have a modest population per sq km.
Who gets the public transport?
You cannot provide it to everyone without spending our grand kids pensions.
Back to reality, we wasted $1b on nothing.
Re: East West Tunnel - kruddler - 03-01-2016
(03-01-2016, 08:15 AM)JonHenry link Wrote:Heavily invest?
We live in one of the biggest cities in the world area wise.
We have a modest population per sq km.
Who gets the public transport?
You cannot provide it to everyone without spending our grand kids pensions.
Back to reality, we wasted $1b on nothing.
With the population growing by the day, the traffic problem is going to get worse.
EW link is a Finger in the dyke. How long will it hold? Not long enough.
You worried about your grandkids? Perhaps make sure there is a world for them to actually grow up in.
Cars are far from good for the environment. PT flogs it in terms of environmental benefits.
WHere to put the rail? Everywhere!
Rail to Tullamarine is a good start.
More rail around the city which they are doing.
Already adding some rail out my way.
Doncaster area should be next.
Adding a new line/extension takes 100's of cars of the roads every day.
Re: East West Tunnel - PassIt2Carrots - 03-01-2016
Wow lucky for me I live 1 minute from work!
Re the government blowing our funds, this is just the tip of the iceberg. Let's look at 5 star junkets, free flights for family etc at top dollar prices. Brumby the fool set the state back years and retired on a 2.3 million super fund with freebies for life. That's what is wrong with this country. The people in charge.
Re: East West Tunnel - JonHenry - 03-01-2016
(03-01-2016, 08:24 AM)kruddler link Wrote:With the population growing by the day, the traffic problem is going to get worse.
EW link is a Finger in the dyke. How long will it hold? Not long enough.
You worried about your grandkids? Perhaps make sure there is a world for them to actually grow up in.
Cars are far from good for the environment. PT flogs it in terms of environmental benefits.
WHere to put the rail? Everywhere!
Rail to Tullamarine is a good start.
More rail around the city which they are doing.
Already adding some rail out my way.
Doncaster area should be next.
Adding a new line/extension takes 100's of cars of the roads every day.
As I said, we have to deal with reality.
You cannot just add train lines to a system that cannot handle it.
I agree we need PT but it will never be the entire solution in a city this vast.
Oh and throwing away a billion dollars cannot be justified no matter how you swing it.
That tunnel should have been built and so should the western link connecting the ports to the western ring road.
The current plan to link it to the West Gate is a farce again.
Re: East West Tunnel - kruddler - 03-01-2016
Not trying to justify wasting a billion dollars, but as carrots said, its far from unusual.
Build the link, sure, but in 10 years time it'll be just like it is now. Bandaid solution.
Rail needs a rethink to handle the extra, sure, but it can be done
Re: East West Tunnel - DJC - 03-01-2016
One of the problems with our transport infrastructure is that it's not integrated.
A rail line should have been built down the middle of the Eastern Freeway and another should have gone in on the Tullamarine. It's a scandal that we don't have a train servicing Melbourne Airport'
Of course, the radial nature of our rail system needs to be addressed with suburban interchanges getting people to their destinations without going through the CBD. Getting heavy vehicles off the road wouldn't go astray but it all costs money and Aussie politicians are terrified of raising taxes, or even not reducing current taxes.
Melbourne is not the only city to suffer traffic chaos when something goes wrong. I was heading north out of Paris a couple of years ago and there was a truck fire on the inbound lane. The traffic was banked up for 21kms and there were hundreds of vehicles still heading towards the jam.
Re: East West Tunnel - Gointocarlton - 03-01-2016
(03-01-2016, 09:45 AM)DJC link Wrote:One of the problems with our transport infrastructure is that it's not integrated.Lindsay Fox suggested years ago that the Ports should be moved from Port Melb out to Western Port Bay to stop the trucks having to go through or near the city to get to them as they do now. Seems logical but do the imbeciles listen? You'd reckon a bloke who has become a Billionaire from the transport game would know a thing or two about transport.
A rail line should have been built down the middle of the Eastern Freeway and another should have gone in on the Tullamarine. It's a scandal that we don't have a train servicing Melbourne Airport'
Of course, the radial nature of our rail system needs to be addressed with suburban interchanges getting people to their destinations without going through the CBD. Getting heavy vehicles off the road wouldn't go astray but it all costs money and Aussie politicians are terrified of raising taxes, or even not reducing current taxes.
Melbourne is not the only city to suffer traffic chaos when something goes wrong. I was heading north out of Paris a couple of years ago and there was a truck fire on the inbound lane. The traffic was banked up for 21kms and there were hundreds of vehicles still heading towards the jam.