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Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - flyboy77 - 11-09-2016
(11-09-2016, 10:48 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:Democracy in action? :o
Spot on.
Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - Micky0 - 11-09-2016
Who exactly is assassinating him? Not sure Democrats are pro
Gun and violence - that's Republican voters.
As someone said, he'll just be the loud mouthed figure head just like George W - others will be in charge.
Gee Pauline Hansen is thrilled. Say no more :o
Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - ElwoodBlues1 - 11-09-2016
(11-09-2016, 09:54 AM)Lods link Wrote:I think we might need a cup of tea, a bex and a good lie down.
Trump's election has been a bit of a shock, but in the end...
Trump will be nothing more than a figurehead..Hope somebody remembers to tell him that..
The day to day grind of Presidency won't be for him.
He's the showman.
Most of the grunt work will be done by Pence and others...conservatives with some right wing views and they'll introduce plans that many of us don't like....
But there won't be death camps in New Mexico.....US will supply arms to the drug lords to keep the fence jumpers in check...thats in line with usual US policy
The Military will remain independent of party politics and although subject to CIC orders the real decisions will be made with input from the Generals and Admirals.
Trump is planning on charging Sth Korea, Japan, Philippines etc for the privilege of American protection...
,,,and in four years time there will be an election and a President will either be re-elected or replaced
A quote from 3 hours ago....Filipino president Rodrigo Duterte vows to work with Trump in defending the dignity of all, including women and sub-standard citizens........Duterte and Trump, there is a combo you can feel comfortable with if you are a woman or a sub standard citizen...how many more nutters are we going to have running the world and wonder how you get to qualify as a sub standard citizen....???
Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - cookie2 - 11-09-2016
(11-09-2016, 11:03 AM)Micky0 link Wrote:Who exactly is assassinating him? Not sure Democrats are pro
Gun and violence - that's Republican voters.
As someone said, he'll just be the loud mouthed figure head just like George W - others will be in charge.
Gee Pauline Hansen is thrilled. Say no more :o
Heard of the neocons, US activities in Libya, Syria etc., wall street, globalisation? Trump would have some serious enemies among the fraternities responsible for those areas for a start, and they wanted the Democrat Hillary for president, after all they bought and paid for her.
Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - mateinone - 11-09-2016
I think it is highly unlikely there will be any major attempts and certainly very unlikely to be any successful attempts on his life.
A lot of people thought that Obama would rile far too many people and importantly the red-neck gun nuts, that he would be assassinated as well as they would refuse to have a black president.
I think Trump will be an awful president and this was the most unbelievable election in history, defying all logic, but now it has happened it was a perfect storm and was always likely all the way back to when he started his campaign with ridiculous comments about Mexico an rapists and gained attention and votes.
A similar phenomena is sweeping Europe and the Asia Pacific region and until it is absolutely two fingers to the the establishment, two fingers to political correctness and taking a soft stand and in America's case it is just them taking the exact stance someone like Russia would. Russians hate a soft leader, they want someone strong, they want someone that will stand up and not care if he says things that offend people.
I think in many ways that Trump is similar to Reagan (in the way that the American public view him), the world was worried that the US had a president that might just start a nuclear war in Reagan, the Russians believed he might just start one too (though I don't think that Russia believes that of Trump).
Ironically Reagan is also only president since FDR whose party won 3 elections straight.
The other thing this election has one is sent a message that the polls are flawed and that the American and World media won't drive and election result, in fact telling the American's they have to reject Trump may just be a fillip in Trumps armory because I think it is becoming apparent that the average American sees the media as part of the establishment they are rejecting.
It has been a scary world for the last few years and it just got scarier yesterday and the world is holding it's breath to see what it means for the different regions of the world, but all anyone can do is wait and see.
Very interesting times ahead
Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - sandsmere - 11-09-2016
Pretty simple I reckon.
The American people aren't as silly as a lot of us thought.
Hillarys lieing, cheating and the general Clinton corruption over a lot of years has come back to Bite her on the Box.
Simple as that.
Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - madbluboy - 11-09-2016
The election was not a shock, people need to wake up and stop believing what the media tell you to believe.
Hillary was never going to beat Trump , Bernie Sanders would have won all those close states she lost.
Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - LP - 11-09-2016
(11-09-2016, 08:51 PM)madbluboy link Wrote:The election was not a shock, people need to wake up and stop believing what the media tell you to believe.
Hillary was never going to beat Trump , Bernie Sanders would have won all those close states she lost.
You've been hanging around me too much! :o
Seriously though, the media nuffies(theirs and ours) must be shizening themselves this morning, they just had their perceptions of significance immense self-worth shattered! Their hubris has had an ar5e kicking! You could see it in the faces of the plebs covering the events on TV, it was like they were thinking "How could those stupid voters get it so wrong!"
They are as mind-numbingly ignorant of their errors as Caro!
They'll be after Trump now, the only way they can feel they are right is to make him look bad! Be prepared for the bullsh1t to go to another level!
Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - cookie2 - 11-09-2016
(11-09-2016, 08:51 PM)madbluboy link Wrote:The election was not a shock, people need to wake up and stop believing what the media tell you to believe.
Hillary was never going to beat Trump , Bernie Sanders would have won all those close states she lost.
The media is owned and operated by oligarchs and promotes their interests. This will be a challenge for Trump and it will be interesting to see how he meets this. There has been speculation that he would launch his own media empire but I'm not sure how that would work now he is president elect?
Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - LP - 11-09-2016
(11-09-2016, 09:12 PM)cookie2 link Wrote:The media is owned and operated by oligarchs and promotes their interests. This will be a challenge for Trump and it will be interesting to see how he meets this. There has been speculation that he would launch his own media empire but I'm not sure how that would work now he is president elect?
If the media owners still had power he wouldn't be President, he has been overtly anti-the-established-media from the start of his campaign. The media thought they could build up their ratings using his sensationalism, then tear him down at the appropriate time, instead as the finish line approached he kicked them in the balls and crossed the line first!
Social media is undermining the influence of the established media and at the moment they are powerless to do anything about it, their revenue streams have shrunk massively. Unless of course they can get control of the likes of Facebook, Google and Twitter.
The Mainstream scoffed at the likes of Michael Moore, among many others, telling them what was happening in the back blocks. They refused to believe that California and Washington would bow down to the Midland states, that Bernie Sanders would have won, and that Trump resonates with the disenchanted everywhere.
I watched The Project last night, the likes of Waleed Aly and Carrie Bickmore pondering how can it be. They think that they speak for Joe Average, that they are part of the mainstream, they don't get that they are viewed as elite! Yet I wonder if they have ever asked, "Do you know who I am?" This sort of incredible foolishness is rife through the media, people that think they are one with the crew in the front bar!
The local equivalents of Michael Moore have been warning for some time that if our current parliament and media don't get their sh1te in order we will see the very same result next election, with the far right parties like Family First and The Hanson United Australia Party being the beneficiaries.
I find it ironic that the likes of Bolt are painting this as a result of the Left's arrogance, while the Left commentary claims it's the rise of the Extremist Right. Of course they are both to blame, as will be the case here in Australia, because they have become so similar and so disconnected from Joe Average, especially in the way they pander to minorities.