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Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - ElwoodBlues1 - 11-09-2016
(11-09-2016, 04:17 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:Of course its a protest vote MIO, as was Brexit. If people are ignored and deprived for long enough they will protest and turf out those who they think have caused their woes. It's an old story.
Its Nazi germany stuff IMO...you get enough working class people struggling and a well organised marketing strategy to engage them and you get their hearts and minds to follow.... a lot of Trump voters wouldnt have a clue what they are voting for.....in their minds anything is better than what we have, so its where do I sign to get a promised better life...
You have to wonder too if some of Hilarys promised votes didnt make it to the ballot box....
Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - mateinone - 11-09-2016
(11-09-2016, 04:10 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:Trump has won Florida and Ohio - 95% certain to be president now!
I still haven't seen Florida called yet, but all indicators are pointing to Trump.
History suggests Florida + Ohio = President
However there is still some hope. I think though now she will need to turn a state such as Arizona. Arizona is an extremely interesting state. It is a border state and would have some of the highest number of Latinos both documented and undocumented. There is a long history of violence and I believe it was the kidnap capital of the US due to the drug trade. There will be a lot of people very strongly Trump and a lot of people very strongly anti-Trump with this policies on deportation etc.
I think it will hold Trump, but it is certainly a state still up in the air.
The other one is Utah.
As Mitt Romney's state it could very well fall to the 3rd option there and you might not get anyone voted in tonight.
But the as the election has shown any real prediction is foolhardy in this one.
Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - LP - 11-09-2016
What happens in the states where there is a third option and neither Clinton or Trump have a clear majority?
Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - cookie2 - 11-09-2016
(11-09-2016, 04:22 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Its Nazi germany stuff IMO...you get enough working class people struggling and a well organised marketing strategy to engage them and you get their hearts and minds to follow.... a lot of Trump voters wouldnt have a clue what they are voting for.....in their minds anything is better than what we have, so its where do I sign to get a promised better life...
Sure is, more than anything it's a massive failure of the conventional political parties to provide adequately for their constituents, just as the weak Weimar republic did in Germany in the 1920s and 30s. People will cop it for so long then patience runs out and anything can happen.
Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - Mav - 11-09-2016
Phillipines Prez Duterte may have been ahead of the curve. There may be a few Asian nations distancing themselves from the US and being more open to China. Why wouldn't they, given Trump has threatened to downgrade US support? I hope that Julie Bishop will avoid handcuffing us to the US.
Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - Bear - 11-09-2016
(11-01-2016, 01:01 AM)Bear link Wrote:Happy to wager that Hillary will not go to jail.
Trump may have her executed, but she won't go to jail.
Less confident that Hillary won't go to jail.
Might need to get on "Execute Hillary".
Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - Mav - 11-09-2016
(11-09-2016, 04:26 AM)LP link Wrote:What happens in the states where there is a third option and neither Clinton or Trump have a clear majority?No need for a clear majority. The candidate with the highest number of votes in any particular state wins all of that state's electoral college votes even if (s)he doesn't get 50% of the vote (disregarding a couple of states which split votes by congressional districts).
3rd party candidates really are only important when they take more votes from one of the 2 main candidates than the other.
Only in Utah might McMullin top the vote, and that's not likely.
Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - cookie2 - 11-09-2016
(11-09-2016, 04:31 AM)Bear link Wrote:Less confident that Hillary won't go to jail.
Might need to get on "Execute Hillary".
Maybe she should be warming up the engine of her getaway car?
Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - mateinone - 11-09-2016
I just layed Trump for a $1000 just because I would like to make a profit if he loses ;D
He just picked up Utah though, so he is edging closer, but Hilary is fighting back in Michigan
Re: US Presidential Election 2016 - mateinone - 11-09-2016
Florida has now been called Trump as expected