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Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - Baggers - 08-04-2024
With a calmer, cooler head I just watched the game again.
1. At seasons beginning we declared that we want to be more consistent in games and week to week. To this stage, we've not delivered on this. And at this end of the season there are too many worrying signs similar to 2022.
2. To last night's game. Not enough reward for effort early not only cost us confidence and scoreboard pressure, but it kept the Dagpies in the game.
3. Rottingwood were smarter at crucial moments in the second and third quarter. They parked themselves in front of H and Charles in packs realising our boys will tap it down to their feet. So they had many spoilers in the packs and plenty at the feet of the packs.
4. To individualize. Ollie was good but needs to pin arms in tackles, too often grabs opponents around the waist leaving their arms free. Too many of our blokes try to take chest marks (Charles!) rather than stick the claws out... Cinc was also guilty of this, and others. Jordan Boyd, too many panicky kick and hopes.
5. Game plan. When we focus on defence, we seem to put too much pressure on ourselves and paradoxically invite the opposition into the game by slowing the game too much - this seems too one-dimensional ...resulting in fumbles and safe decisions. However, when we take the game on (attacking game plan) we look so much more dangerous and create all manner of unexpected opportunities - confusing the opposition and giving our talent more opportunities to show their wares. Time to trust our attacking/speed on the aggott/game more?
6. We never dropped our bundle... though when being too defensive we fail/limit (to) give ourselves the opportunity to keep the scoreboard ticking over (scoreboard pressure). Contrary to what I may have indicated earlier, we are not soft above the shoulders and perhaps growing our mental toughness further would be to show more trust in ourselves and team mates?
7. Noteworthy individual endeavours and efforts: Weiters, Gov, Kempy, Saady, Blacres, Elijah (recruit of the year), Crippa, Hewey, Walsh, Newey (that free kick against Newey to Cox was garbage), Chugga & Jack Martin.
8. Future. Hopefully we learn some very important things from that game: efficiency in front of goal, don't get mired in a defensive mindset, when we take the game on we see our best. Huge understatement to say we're at a critical point in our season. But we are still masters of our destiny.
I remain optimistic. We have the goods, but will we deliver.
Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - pinot - 08-04-2024
There are two things I wanted to see in this game - defending stoppages better and locking the ball in forward 50 because it was a lost cause last week and leaked too many goals and not tackling inside forward 50 enough. Did better here - leaders stepping up late in the last was too late... they had to identify it earlier and it had to be in the 2nd qtr. Chasing the game 32 pts down in the last was too much.. got close but a game that we should not have lost.
Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - kruddler - 08-04-2024
Not sure if its been mentioned or not, but i wouldn't be surprised if McGovern misses next week with concussion.
He copped a knee/shin to the back of the head, you can see the collingwood bloke holding his leg in pain.
He took a long time to take his shot and spent a lot of time rubbing and shaking his head.
Obviously, his kick was terrible.
Reminded me of when Robbie Warnock did similarly against Geelong many years ago after getting punched in the head. IIRC he missed everything too, or at least barely got a point. He was talked about as being soft on the night. Ended up spending the night in hospital.
Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - madbluboy - 08-04-2024
If we took him off for concussion (like we got in trouble for not doing) and let Harry take it could you imagine the outcry?
Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - cookie2 - 08-04-2024
Baggers, I especially like point 5 in your analysis. Very noticeable to me but you said it better.
Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - kruddler - 08-04-2024
(08-04-2024, 02:14 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:If we took him off for concussion (like we got in trouble for not doing) and let Harry take it could you imagine the outcry?
There was ample time for the AFL to look at the footage and call out to the field umpire to sort it out.
They will be in as much trouble as us for not acting.
Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - ElwoodBlues1 - 08-04-2024
We mess around with the ball too much and have a bad case of the early Trent Cotchins, had way more useless possessions that went nowhere and the Pies plan is just to rebound the footy quickly when we turn it over with us having no numbers behind the ball and getting caught out. They do it every game we play them and they never seem to control the play as much as us but know we will over use the ball and cough it up for easy goals.
Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - LoveNavy - 08-04-2024
(08-04-2024, 01:59 AM)laj link Wrote:The same pattern for 5 weeks, playing one random brilliant qtr, This week it was the last.
Thus, the slippery slide from 2nd as contenders, to 8th as pretenders. A whisker from a Fail.
Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - Gointocarlton - 08-04-2024
Couldnt watch this one as we were in the road. Thought we lose and we did. Cant have two Coalman medalists in your side kicking 1 goal between them. We dont deserve to play finals the way we are travelling. Cant beat an egg, if we lose the remaining games there will be hell to pay.
Re: AFL Rd 21 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - LoveNavy - 08-04-2024
We had 8 points on the board q1. Nuff said.