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Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney - dodge - 05-19-2024
Swans dialled up the pressure and we went 'Nah, don't want to know about it'.
What did our top 6 do to respond? They're the leaders.
Need to be at your best to beat the Swans, we were miles away.
Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney - ElwoodBlues1 - 05-19-2024
We let Heeney and Warner have too much space and left unmanned and when your mids are not quick once the Swans players got goal side in the middle it was over. Cerra is an important out as he gives Cripps and Walsh a bit more cover being quicker and has more class than Kennedy and Hewett.When he comes back in we will look a lot better...
Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney - tonyo - 05-19-2024
Let's be honest, to beat Sydney in Sydney, we needed to have absolutely everything going for us.
Reality is, it was exactly opposite - down on a significant number of important personnel (10 or more), probably our slowest possible combination against a team that runs like crazy, and coming off a crap last quarter against the Dees.
Move on and concentrate on the Suns.
Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney - blueboys_1 - 05-20-2024
(05-19-2024, 04:51 AM)tonyo link Wrote:Hmmmm tagging, or scragging, or free kick every day of the week? Time to show this to the umpires' department.....
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Yes yes yes, consistency. Williams gave away two free kicks against the pies for the exact same thing. It was not paid the other way during the game to Charlie or Harry. Opposition supporters complain how many frees Charlie gets but they don't see the ones that he does not get when he is held or scragged in a pack.
Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney - blueboys_1 - 05-20-2024
(05-19-2024, 01:40 PM)DJC link Wrote:The two frees paid against Zac Williams for holding Elliott are a case in point. Collingwood defenders did exactly the same to our forwards several times later in the game and there wasn't a whistle to be heard.
Perhaps umpires wish to set the ground rules early in the game, possibly subconsciously, then relax their interpretation as the game progresses.
x2. See my previous post.
Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney - PaulP - 05-20-2024
No real surprises in the coaches' votes. Clean sweep by the Swans, just confirming what a poor night it was all round.
Warner 10
Heeney 8
Grundy 6
Rowbottom 4
Gulden 1
Jordon 1
Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney - Milhanna13 - 05-28-2024
(05-17-2024, 12:45 PM)LP link Wrote:Was thinking much the same, but he hunts the pill and gets zero protection, the game the way it is being umpired is starting to reward the snipers.
I don't mind the tackling, but not when they just flop into the backs of Cripps and Walsh without penalty.
Generally BEFORE they take the ball, as well
Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney - Milhanna13 - 05-28-2024
(05-19-2024, 04:51 AM)tonyo link Wrote:Hmmmm tagging, or scragging, or free kick every day of the week? Time to show this to the umpires' department.....
This is a hobby-horse of mine.... It happens to Crippa so often it is not funny. "Tagger" takes his eyes off the ball and hugs Cripps at every opportunity before the ball is even bounced. Or sits on him, and tackles him just a sec before he takes possession.
What makes the Swans worse is Grundy was doing it as well. Watch the replay. 1st Q, we were getting ascendancy in the middle. So, what do they do? Grundy starts mauling Pitto and King as the ball is bounced - he is grabbing them from accross the line and nto allowing them to jump at the footy. He got pinged for it twice - but probably did it 50 times
We know we rely on winning the clearances. So, Horse has 3 of his blokes hang onto our ruckman and 2 prime movers, before the ball is bounced. Give up 2 or 3 frees in the process. But, essentially stop our main avenue to score
Has been a Swans trait since Roos - push the rules right to the edge and get away with it 99 times out of 100. Roos invented tunnelling, holding players down in tackles to let the defence set up. Now Longmire has perfected the holding prior to getting the ball.... along with (as another poster mentioned) just kicking the ball off the ground in the middle of a pack (not sure what happened to kicking in danger, but it certainly doesnt apply to the fluffy ducks)