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Re: AFL Rd 10 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - rocky - 05-21-2023
(05-21-2023, 10:18 AM)kruddler link Wrote:I thought Kemp deserves a promotion as much as anyone from what i saw today.
Was probably harsh not to be playing already TBH.
Yep, absolutely.
Might be time to give Ed a rest. Dow can come in for him....or at least as the sub.
Double-yep, but it ain't going to happen
Re: AFL Rd 10 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - LoveNavy - 05-21-2023
I thought Vossy's presser was honest, measured, and delivered with relative confidence. Good for him. He was a brutal competitor. Let's hope he can withstand whatever criticism comes his way, and get the team to click.
Feels to me like a lot is good enough, but a few key things have some ways to go. It's like watching a cyclist on a moving velodrome. As one manoeuvre is successfully executed, the next challenge is unexpectedly approaching at speed.
Re: AFL Rd 10 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - PaulP - 05-21-2023
(05-21-2023, 10:35 AM)LoveNavy link Wrote:I thought Vossy's presser was honest, measured, and delivered with relative confidence. Good for him. He was a brutal competitor. Let's hope he can withstand whatever criticism comes his way, and get the team to click.
Feels to me like a lot is good enough, but a few key things have some ways to go. It's like watching a cyclist on a moving velodrome. As one manoeuvre is successfully executed, the next challenge is unexpectedly approaching at speed.
I agree.
Re: AFL Rd 10 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - LordLucifer - 05-21-2023
It's not the loss itself that has disappointed me the most, its the actual manner in which we lost that has pissed me right off.
No system, too predictable and a stack of players who pick & choose when to go, it is just not good enough and never ever will be.
I am more than happy to have some further analysis of the playing list (and I will over the coming week), but I now feel that Voss' appointment as senior coach has to come under serious scrutiny. I initially thought he was a very good choice for us but clearly, the wheels have come off the wagon and we have slumped to a mid-table rabble with no future in sight.
Time to review this aspect of the club and more importantly, who is making the decisions too.
Re: AFL Rd 10 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - LordLucifer - 05-21-2023
(05-21-2023, 08:55 AM)Lods link Wrote:Yep
It may be time to give Cripps a change of scenery.
Seriously, I'm not sure there was a lot in it but we'll put our own interpretations on it.
There's a general feeling that Cripps may have played a large part in Teague's demise.
That could also extend to Bolton.
But that's speculation.
What is probably not speculation is that Cripps wields a lot of influence over the playing group.
If it did come to a showdown it may be that the Captain moves this time rather than the coach.
But as I said that's speculation, maybe even wild speculation.
Very interesting comment Lods and it ties in with one of the threadstarters I have been working on for the past week.
Re: AFL Rd 10 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - Thryleon - 05-21-2023
(05-21-2023, 10:18 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:5 Coaches, same as Ed.6 including Barker, and Murphy was here for pagan.
Re: AFL Rd 10 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - Thryleon - 05-21-2023
(05-21-2023, 10:11 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Look at the stats and across the board it was an 'even' contest.
Same inside 50's
Same tackles
Similar contested possessions
Similar turnovers
Similar 1%
Similar disposal efficiency (we actually had slightly better)
Same efficiency inside 50.
Ultimately, they converted, we did not.
They were under less pressure than we were under, all over the ground, including in front of goal.
A bit more luck in front of goal, tables are turned, pressure is reversed, its game on.
But they got too much too soon and blew us out of the water. We came back but they are too good to let us make a difference.
There was a team out there that went through the gears when it was required and put the queue in the rack when they went 40 points up.
Our mob look and play clueless football.
5.1 to 1 goal 2 and I couldn't see us getting back into it.
Re: AFL Rd 10 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - kruddler - 05-21-2023
(05-21-2023, 10:44 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:6 including Barker, and Murphy was here for pagan.Murphy wasn't here for Voss though
Re: AFL Rd 10 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - ElwoodBlues1 - 05-21-2023
(05-21-2023, 10:35 AM)LoveNavy link Wrote:I thought Vossy's presser was honest, measured, and delivered with relative confidence. Good for him. He was a brutal competitor. Let's hope he can withstand whatever criticism comes his way, and get the team to click.I thought it was better than his previous couple where he just tried to deflect the important issues but he was more matter of fact today and didnt offer any excuses. He looks worried and tired and reckon he needs that mid season break to recharge the batteries.
Feels to me like a lot is good enough, but a few key things have some ways to go. It's like watching a cyclist on a moving velodrome. As one manoeuvre is successfully executed, the next challenge is unexpectedly approaching at speed.
Re: AFL Rd 10 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - Thryleon - 05-21-2023
(05-21-2023, 10:49 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Murphy wasn't here for Voss thoughI stand corrected. Missed that detail.