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Re: AFL Rd 3 2023 Post Game Prognostications Giants vs Carlton - DJC - 04-02-2023
(04-01-2023, 10:19 PM)PaulP link Wrote:Ì wonder why the umpire didn't include that in his explanation to Whitfield ?
Because it would have gone to air …
Re: AFL Rd 3 2023 Post Game Prognostications Giants vs Carlton - PaulP - 04-02-2023
(04-02-2023, 09:44 AM)DJC link Wrote:Because it would have gone to air …
Why would that be an issue ? He doesn't have to repeat the words, just explain to Whitfield that Coniglio used expletives.
Re: AFL Rd 3 2023 Post Game Prognostications Giants vs Carlton - PaulP - 04-02-2023
(04-02-2023, 09:38 AM)northernblue link Wrote:Cmon Paul, surely the first thing should be “Is this a reasonable charge/outcome ?”
You can watch the replay on the AFL website. I watched it at 0.5 speed with freeze frame, and it's hard to tell exactly what went down. It certainly looks clumsy on Acres' part, but how much Daniels' foot played a role is hard to say IMO.
Re: AFL Rd 3 2023 Post Game Prognostications Giants vs Carlton - DJC - 04-02-2023
(04-02-2023, 03:08 AM)northernblue link Wrote:On the radio they claimed that Lob missed the bus from the hotel.
I would have expected him to have a big game, that he didn’t is worrying.
I think he needs game time and on form it won’t be in the seniors unless Acres shoulder doesn’t come up.
O’Brien backed up in the magoos last weekend so he’s played seven and a half quarters over three weeks. I’m not sure that it’s a lack of game time that’s the problem. He seems to have turned the clock back to indecisive Lochie ?
Re: AFL Rd 3 2023 Post Game Prognostications Giants vs Carlton - LP - 04-02-2023
(04-02-2023, 09:38 AM)northernblue date Wrote:Cmon Paul, surely the first thing should be “Is this a reasonable charge/outcome ?”The old Carlton, the Malthouse / Bolton / Teague Carlton, would let Acres wear the charge due to the injury, but that is a failure to support the player.
We have to stand shoulder to shoulder with our players.
I get the AFL's stance but they can't be kyboshing players because of accidents, it's untenable for that to be penalised in a contact sport.
Re: AFL Rd 3 2023 Post Game Prognostications Giants vs Carlton - DJC - 04-02-2023
Coniglio is a serial offender when it comes to questioning umpires’ decisions. He showed dissent on at least two previous occasions during the game. What we don’t know is whether he was cautioned or whether the umpires decided to ping him for the next incident.
Despite the AFL softening its stance on dissent, Coniglio’s remonstration was worth a free kick. As a senior player, he should have better self control.
Harry was tackled after he fumbled the ball and could easily have received a free kick for holding the man, as the commentary suggested. The tackler doesn’t get the benefit of the doubt if he can’t see that his opponent doesn’t have the ball. “Play on” was probably the correct call but Coniglio was way out of line with his remonstration.
Yes, I would have been p1ssed off if one of our players had given away a free in those circumstances … but with the player.
Re: AFL Rd 3 2023 Post Game Prognostications Giants vs Carlton - ElwoodBlues1 - 04-02-2023
(04-02-2023, 09:53 AM)DJC link Wrote:O’Brien backed up in the magoos last weekend so he’s played seven and a half quarters over three weeks. I’m not sure that it’s a lack of game time that’s the problem. He seems to have turned the clock back to indecisive Lochie ?His disposal efficiency was 40%, in a very non pressure high stat game shows he needs some twos footy and that the sub
role doesn't suit him as he has had no impact in any game so far.
Re: AFL Rd 3 2023 Post Game Prognostications Giants vs Carlton - tonyo - 04-02-2023
(04-02-2023, 07:23 AM)Baggers date Wrote:I also thought that Jason Dunstall's comments were the most accurate and to the spirit of the law. Garry Lyon though...Lyon is so anti-Carlton it's a joke. He tried to explain that Motlop's perfect tackle on Coniglio in the 2nd was in fact holding the man because Congilio never took possession of the ball (replays clearly showed the opposite). And then when the same thing happens to H in the last , it's 'how was that not a free kick to GWS'....
Still, what do you expect from a knob who would pinch his mate's wife.....
Re: AFL Rd 3 2023 Post Game Prognostications Giants vs Carlton - Gointocarlton - 04-02-2023
(04-02-2023, 10:37 AM)tonyo link Wrote:Lyon is so anti-Carlton it's a joke. He tried to explain that Motlop's perfect tackle on Coniglio in the 2nd was in fact holding the man because Congilio never took possession of the ball (replays clearly showed the opposite). And then when the same thing happens to H in the last , it's 'how was that not a free kick to GWS'....Ex wife
Still, what do you expect from a knob who would pinch his mate's wife.....
Re: AFL Rd 3 2023 Post Game Prognostications Giants vs Carlton - Gointocarlton - 04-02-2023
(04-02-2023, 07:23 AM)Baggers link Wrote:Swearing goes to belligerence. That's why it would be an issue. And, after watching the replay, a few times, Coniglio certainly remonstrating... let's say, forcefully. Pretty sure that would have been a free and a fifty anywhere on the ground.They showed instances on the Sunday FS where players did the same thing with their arms (one was Gov yesterday) and no free was paid. The ones they showed however were an appeal for a free by the players for deliberate out of bounds so there is a difference albeit subtle and whilst I dont like players doing, that's not a free in my mind. The Coniglio one was according to the rule, if they aren't paid on other occasions, that's on the umpire at the time, it doesn't make yesterdays call wrong.
The rule wasn't, I believe, brought in to protect the umpires feelings but rather to protect the esteem and respect for umpires and their decisions. And that is imperative. Difficult enough job without being abused for a couple of hours every week, not to mention the example for the other leagues - junior and senior.
I also thought that Jason Dunstall's comments were the most accurate and to the spirit of the law. Garry Lyon though...