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Re: Pre game Premonitions: AFL 2021 Rd 14: Carlton vs GWS - cookie2 - 06-17-2021

Ever hopeful but I will be pleasantly surprised if we roll them.


Re: Pre game Premonitions: AFL 2021 Rd 14: Carlton vs GWS - ElwoodBlues1 - 06-17-2021

(06-17-2021, 10:43 PM)cookie2 link Wrote:Ever hopeful but I will be pleasantly surprised if we roll them.
GWS are as reliable as we are and their coaching box equally unreliable so we have some hope. You add Mummy being out and I think we can roll them more by the law of averages...


Re: Pre game Premonitions: AFL 2021 Rd 14: Carlton vs GWS - capcom - 06-18-2021

To use a poor analogy for the GWS game, if we don't sail on this new ocean, we should just play with our boats in the wading pool.




Re: Pre game Premonitions: AFL 2021 Rd 14: Carlton vs GWS - sandsmere - 06-18-2021

I reckon you're right EB.

We are a good chance with Mummy out.


Re: Pre game Premonitions: AFL 2021 Rd 14: Carlton vs GWS - DJC - 06-18-2021

(06-17-2021, 10:43 PM)cookie2 link Wrote:Ever hopeful but I will be pleasantly surprised if we roll them.

The only game that I was confident of winning was the Collingwood game ... and that turned out well  Sad

I don’t really think that the personnel each team puts on the park is all that important.  It’s the game plan, tactics, motivation and footy nous that decides games and I suspect that GWS has a significant edge ... but you never know!

I hope you are pleasantly surprised Cookie  Smile


Re: Pre game Premonitions: AFL 2021 Rd 14: Carlton vs GWS - cookie2 - 06-18-2021

(06-18-2021, 12:57 AM)DJC link Wrote:The only game that I was confident of winning was the Collingwood game ... and that turned out well  Sad

I don’t really think that the personnel each team puts on the park is all that important.  It’s the game plan, tactics, motivation and footy nous that decides games and I suspect that GWS has a significant edge ... but you never know!

I hope you are pleasantly surprised Cookie  Smile

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-17/what-has-gone-wrong-with-carlton-this-year/100218856

I don't know whether this has been posted before but this article may explain why we have been struggling and will continue to do so unless things change.


Re: Pre game Premonitions: AFL 2021 Rd 14: Carlton vs GWS - PaulP - 06-18-2021

(06-18-2021, 01:13 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-17/what-has-gone-wrong-with-carlton-this-year/100218856

I don't know whether this has been posted before but this article may explain why we have been struggling and will continue to do so unless things change.

I enjoyed that. Interesting info IMO.


Re: Pre game Premonitions: AFL 2021 Rd 14: Carlton vs GWS - PaulP - 06-18-2021

Assuming that article has it right, the problem lies somewhere on the line connecting coaching instructions / structures and players adjusting / playing to those instructions. 

If you look at the first graph, Teague has made adjustments from 2020 to 2021, as the number of 1v1's has come down, but only barely. That slight reduction doesn't seem to make any real difference if you compare W/L, percentage etc., so it's either a token measure that doesn't go far enough, or else there are real personnel / structural issues that require a genuine overhaul of our entire defensive system and mindset.


Re: Pre game Premonitions: AFL 2021 Rd 14: Carlton vs GWS - cookie2 - 06-18-2021

(06-18-2021, 01:29 AM)PaulP link Wrote:I enjoyed that. Interesting info IMO.

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Re: Pre game Premonitions: AFL 2021 Rd 14: Carlton vs GWS - PaulP - 06-18-2021

Looking at that second graph, it's a massive credit to Weitering and Jones that, despite having the greatest number of 1v1's of the players graphed (each has about 6 1v1's per game), they have the highest win rate of those contests. Massive tick for both.