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Re: Post Game Permutation: AFL Rd 12: Carlton vs Fremantle - Micky0 - 08-16-2020
What a game.
So happy we got gifted a 50/50 free kick that went our way. Wish the media would focus on the first two goals for Freo, they came from free kicks that definitely weren’t there.
I liked how we were pressured but kept going - the HTB against Levi was a shocking call too.
Fyfe is a fantastic player but couldn’t be everywhere thankfully.
Think that kick by Newnes was amazing - the best I’ve seen, considering he also had to move the cameraman and his leads out of the way - what the hell was that about? Surely they have a protocol for that, shouldn’t be up to the player.
I love Willo he has something about him, I believe he’ll improve - definitely has the skills.
Doch is very lucky we’re not scrutinising his shit kick At the end!
Re: Post Game Permutation: AFL Rd 12: Carlton vs Fremantle - spf - 08-16-2020
(08-15-2020, 11:24 PM)Lods link Wrote:Some extreme opinions on Murphy (both ways).
He's still accumulating the ball at a good rate.
His body (upper body in particular) is probably pretty close to being a 'shot unit'
I blame that in a large part to some of the pathetic support he received from team-mates in his younger years.
My concerns with Murphy at the moment is his disposal (47% last night), especially by foot.
Some of his turnovers can be costly.
But last night he wasn't Robinson Crusoe.
Look at the Disposal Efficiency for everyone last night from the AFL stat site .... It's very poor (sure, weather was a factor)
https://www.afl.com.au/matches/2823#player-stats
(click on advanced stats to get the DEf)
(Edit-Probably easier to find here.
https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_match_statistics?mid=10264&advv=Y
Lod's I think that is it personally, if Murphy is going to play on, his disposal has to be better than it is, he has to be that nice ball user, and deliver and hurt the opposition. There is no reason he cannot do that. Higgins would have hit targets last night and we probably would be a goal or two better for having him deliver the ball.
Re: Post Game Permutation: AFL Rd 12: Carlton vs Fremantle - bratblue - 08-16-2020
I'm sorry I don't get it. Easy enough for armchair riders to say that last free kick wasn't there, the game was horrible etc etc. The same umpire gave two previous similar decisions both against us so the warning was there and luckily or otherwise for us we got one at that last moment. The Freo player made the mistake, not the ump.
Both sides played boundry line footy. In the few times we tried to break away in the third we messed it up that last kick into the forward line, horribly. It wasn't the night for that. There was just no space all night, scrambly kicks went half their usual distance. Something about that salt laden rain made for that, last time we played in the rain in QLD we killed it. We were the better team and we played well to win even if, to some/most, it looked ugly. It wasn't to me.
Re: Post Game Permutation: AFL Rd 12: Carlton vs Fremantle - Spanner_smf2_import2 - 08-16-2020
(08-15-2020, 02:45 PM)townsendcalling link Wrote:Yep, sure did,And this my friends is the definition re-writing history. If the game of AFL was all about stats padding and cheap possessions like kicking sideways and backwards Marc would be the king amongst kings.
And so did the Herald Sun:
Carlton: Curnow, Cripps, Walsh, Murphy, Setterfield, Cottrell
And the Carlton Website:
Carlton: Curnow, Cripps, Walsh, Docherty, Murphy, Setterfield
And The Age:
Carlton: Walsh, Cripps, E Curnow, Casboult, Murphy, Newnes
And the AFL Website:
Carlton: Curnow, Cripps, Walsh, Docherty, Murphy, Setterfield
And Spanner:
Cripps is becoming a liability. Someone's been reading their own press me thinks. (Contribution? 24 disposals, 20 contested, 6 tackles, 4 centre clearances)
The power house Murphy led midfield is getting annihilated by a couple of 50 gamers. (Brayshaw, Cerra, Munday, Serong and Ffyfe all had less disposals, less centre clearances and only Ffyfe had more contested possessions. Collectively they had 1 centre clearances between them!!)
Nice work Marc, nice work (Contribution? 20 disposals, 13 contested, 3 tackles, 2 centre clearances)
Now that's where the LOL belongs!!! (BTW, sorry to disappoint you, but WE WON!!)
Sadly for Marc and you I suppose, is the game requires a little bit more fortitude and resilience when things get tough. Something your best friend Marc lacks all too often. Go back and watch the game without your stats sheet or your commentators bullsh!+ write ups that they do straight after the game, by going over those very stat sheets you rely on to mount your case.
It's farcical anyone can state that he had a good game. You're one of the very people who are taken in by this type propaganda. Have you ever had an original thought on your own, or are you solely at the mercy of trash stats and commentator write ups? Yeah, thought so... LOL!
Re: Post Game Permutation: AFL Rd 12: Carlton vs Fremantle - Gointocarlton - 08-16-2020
(08-15-2020, 11:20 PM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Re:Murphy... I didn't notice him for good or bad when I saw his stats I was surprised he had 20 disposals.23
Re: Post Game Permutation: AFL Rd 12: Carlton vs Fremantle - flyboy77 - 08-16-2020
Did Kennedy get injured?
Re: Post Game Permutation: AFL Rd 12: Carlton vs Fremantle - DJC - 08-16-2020
(08-15-2020, 11:46 PM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:ReE.. in those conditions just get the ball moving forward. Ed Curnow had the right idea just get it and kick it our way.
Freo went handball happy at one stage and kept losing control of the ball.
Fyfe seemed a level above in those conditions but was sent forward, strange move imo. Terrible game to watch until the last kick and that was the only bit of disposal efficiency that mattered.
You’re right EB, the conditions were very poor for most of the game and I imagine that Teague’s instructions would have been to gain territory with every disposal. Most of our players were hacking the ball forward during periods of heavy rain and there were turnovers as a result. That’s OK if we can then set up defensively and we were able to do that quite well most of the time.
While it wasn’t a great spectacle, I still found it to be an entertaining game between two fairly evenly matched teams, even if inexplicable umpiring decisions (and non-decisions) gave Fremantle a leg up. The down the ground free to Newnes was one occasion when an umpire got it right
Despite the commentators drooling over Freo’s midfield, it was Curnow, Cripps, Murphy and Walsh that got on top and set up the win. Plowman’s work on Fyffe was critical too.
Re: Post Game Permutation: AFL Rd 12: Carlton vs Fremantle - Gointocarlton - 08-16-2020
(08-15-2020, 11:34 PM)Professer E link Wrote:Well there's the argument in a nutshell. You can't quantify "hurt factor", maybe DE approximates it. If you get it, to be effective you have to use it properly....moving to the the advantage of the team mate/team.Horrible conditions, high pressure from the oppo (and umps).
BTW, our overall DE was horrible, a damning stat that says plenty.
Re: Post Game Permutation: AFL Rd 12: Carlton vs Fremantle - Gointocarlton - 08-16-2020
(08-15-2020, 11:46 PM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:ReHappy to win ugly/terrible. The fact we stayed in it and never ever gave up is HUGE for me.
Freo went handball happy at one stage and kept losing control of the ball.
Fyfe seemed a level above in those conditions but was sent forward, strange move imo. Terrible game to watch until the last kick and that was the only bit of disposal efficiency that mattered.
Re: Post Game Permutation: AFL Rd 12: Carlton vs Fremantle - rocky - 08-16-2020
(08-16-2020, 12:48 AM)DJC link Wrote:Plowman’s work on Fyffe was critical too.Absolutely. Plow gets a fair amount of criticism week in week out but yesterday he was very good and it went unnoticed. Good call DJC