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Re: 2018 Rd 5: Post Game Passion: Carlton vs West Coast - Sexybronco - 04-22-2018
(04-22-2018, 03:47 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Harry isnt a Jonathon Brown crash/spread the pack type, he will only get injured, he needs to lead or be the bloke dropping back and taking the mark at the back of the pack type of player. Levi is the pack crasher ande maybe Patrick Kerr down the track....
Probably true, but he is a big lad and in time will have an impact at the contest, just needs to be allowed to develop.
Re: 2018 Rd 5: Post Game Passion: Carlton vs West Coast - PaulP - 04-22-2018
(04-22-2018, 03:48 AM)Sexybronco link Wrote:No mate, nothing like that but it is hard to keep track of these guys when following the ball. He did spend time on the bench as we rotated our bigger blokes and while kicked 4 goals it felt lie it cam from 2 x separate cameos rather than a dominant performance, I love the way he moves and he just looks like he knows how to play. He also said in his after game interview that the intensity at AFL level meas you can't have any mental lapses as you will get punished, sounded like a reference to an area in his game he needs to work on.
Thanks matey. Appreciate your thoughts.
Re: 2018 Rd 5: Post Game Passion: Carlton vs West Coast - Thryleon - 04-22-2018
Harry almost disappeared for large periods is the only concern.
I think given where we are at we are carrying a few players who aren't giving us 4 quarters.
That's ok but we won't win many games doing that.
Re: 2018 Rd 5: Post Game Passion: Carlton vs West Coast - jeza - 04-22-2018
(04-22-2018, 05:05 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:Harry almost disappeared for large periods is the only concern.
I think given where we are at we are carrying a few players who aren't giving us 4 quarters.
That's ok but we won't win many games doing that.
Playing as a young key forward in a team getting hammered for large periods will do that.
Re: 2018 Rd 5: Post Game Passion: Carlton vs West Coast - LoveNavy - 04-22-2018
(04-22-2018, 02:53 AM)jeza link Wrote:Cam O'Shea had 10 possessions - 8 of them clangers. I don't know if a player in double figures for disposals has ever had a 80% clanger rate before or will again. That is remarkable. I can't see how we can keep him in the team based on that alone. Experienced player too.
Yeah, spot o jeza.
O'Shea gifting WC turnovers and Plowman missing a couple of sitters was enough to lose momentum and the game. Not saying it's ever that simple but ..... could should would
I agree with others regarding Plowman's dip in form. It's clear the gap left by Doc will be difficult to manage. Particularly given injuries to Rowe (initially), Marchy, Willo, Byrne, ACOS, and Weiters . I think this has had a flow on effect to our backline, resulting in the disorganization and high scores against we've seen.
I'll say again- little Zac is growing quarter by quarter. He already punches well above his weight. It's his ability to recover and go again while sustaining full focus on the specific contest and the game. This allows him to resurface, make good decisions, and hit a target. Speaks volumes about his aerobic capacity and footy brain. Future B & F material IMO. Hopefully his mate Samo will hit some form soon. Although small they will become pests to their opponents.
O'Brein had a good impact on the game as did Dow. We saw glimpses of why they were drafted. Clearance work and bursting from packs + outside endurance, run, and quality disposal. Looking forward to watching the youngsters develop together, despite the inevitable L tally.
Re: 2018 Rd 5: Post Game Passion: Carlton vs West Coast - ElwoodBlues1 - 04-22-2018
(04-22-2018, 06:00 AM)LoveNavy link Wrote:Yeah, spot o jeza.
O'Shea gifting WC turnovers and Plowman missing a couple of sitters was enough to lose momentum and the game. Not saying it's ever that simple but ..... could should would
I agree with others regarding Plowman's dip in form. It's clear the gap left by Doc will be difficult to manage. Particularly given injuries to Rowe (initially), Marchy, Willo, Byrne, ACOS, and Weiters . I think this has had a flow on effect to our backline, resulting in the disorganization and high scores against we've seen.
I'll say again- little Zac is growing quarter by quarter. He already punches well above his weight. It's his ability to recover and go again while sustaining full focus on the specific contest and the game. This allows him to resurface, make good decisions, and hit a target. Speaks volumes about his aerobic capacity and footy brain. Future B & F material IMO. Hopefully his mate Samo will hit some form soon. Although small they will become pests to their opponents.
O'Brein had a good impact on the game as did Dow. We saw glimpses of why they were drafted. Clearance work and bursting from packs + outside endurance, run, and quality disposal. Looking forward to watching the youngsters develop together, despite the inevitable L tally.
Fisher is a real footballer and makes good decisions...Samo needs to learn from Fisher about application and attacking every contest, he is just choosing when to go at the minute...
OBrien is more composed with the ball than Paddy, the latter tends to waste the footy but does contest well and is learning when to run and where the footy is going....both going ok IMO and just need more games. The problem comes when Cripps is held and the likes of Dow have to try and step up and fill the gap, not Dows fault but we need more from the likes of Kennedy when fit, Kerridge etc...
Re: 2018 Rd 5: Post Game Passion: Carlton vs West Coast - crashlander - 04-22-2018
(04-22-2018, 06:27 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Fisher is a real footballer and makes good decisions...Samo needs to learn from Fisher about application and attacking every contest, he is just choosing when to go at the minute...Absolutely! SPS can be so good, but he needs to put in all of the time. And a few more fit in that box.
OBrien is more composed with the ball than Paddy, the latter tends to waste the footy but does contest well and is learning when to run and where the footy is going....both going ok IMO and just need more games. The problem comes when Cripps is held and the likes of Dow have to try and step up and fill the gap, not Dows fault but we need more from the likes of Kennedy when fit, Kerridge etc...
Maybe, O'Brien is, but I think that Dow just needs to learn how to deal with the extra physical pressure. He is used to breaking tackles and kicking in the clear. He needs to up his reflexes and work on the decision making. For that matter Byrne could do with some of the same, as he also tends to take off before he thinks and run into brick walls.
Re: 2018 Rd 5: Post Game Passion: Carlton vs West Coast - Gointocarlton - 04-22-2018
H will be the Rising Star this week.
Re: 2018 Rd 5: Post Game Passion: Carlton vs West Coast - dodge - 04-22-2018
Saw bits and pieces on TV. A couple of bits that I liked - Dow had the footy and Rioli lined him. Dow rode the tackle and Rioli went down.
In the first(?) qtr, McKay tired to kick a bit round the corner to Casboult and ended up out of bounds - Derm, mentioned that with a bit more experience, there was a sidestep and easy pass. Late in the game SOSOS did that - sidestepped the opponent and put it on McKay's head - mark and goal.
The kids did some good stuff and we didn't seem to try to be so cute, which helped.
One annoying thing was Phillips (twice) and Charlie were having set shots from 55 out. Never going to work...
Re: 2018 Rd 5: Post Game Passion: Carlton vs West Coast - cookie2 - 04-22-2018
(04-22-2018, 06:36 AM)dodge link Wrote:Dow had the footy and Rioli lined him. Dow rode the tackle and Rioli went down.
I particularly relished that moment - Rioli would have regretted deciding on that move, and Dow looked rock solid.
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