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Re: 2018 - What do you expect from the club? - cookie2 - 10-24-2017
I'm not dwelling too much on our game style of last year as it was probably only a stage in our evolution. I'm more interested in seeing how we line up and play in 2018. I'm certain it will be very different and more attacking, especially as the year unfolds.
Re: 2018 - What do you expect from the club? - LP - 10-24-2017
(10-24-2017, 10:05 PM)cookie2 link Wrote:I'm not dwelling too much on our game style of last year as it was probably only a stage in our evolution. I'm more interested in seeing how we line up and play in 2018. I'm certain it will be very different and more attacking, especially as the year unfolds.
I suppose we can expect some natural improvement in this regard, as confidence and skills grow players should become more adventurous.
It's the bit in bold that has let us down in the past, our skills just haven't improved much over the years which is a worry.
Re: 2018 - What do you expect from the club? - cookie2 - 10-25-2017
(10-24-2017, 11:58 PM)LP link Wrote:I suppose we can expect some natural improvement in this regard, as confidence and skills grow players should become more adventurous.
It's the bit in bold that has let us down in the past, our skills just haven't improved much over the years which is a worry.
It would appear that we have put more focus on development of late. We'll just have to wait and see whether that starts to bear fruit next year.
Re: 2018 - What do you expect from the club? - sydneybluesfan - 10-25-2017
The crazy thing about our stats is that we are the highest kicking team on average in the comp, but we are ranked dead last on handballs - so are last in total disposals per game.
There is cause and effect in everything in football. We play safety first football and kick a lot, which means we get very little overlap run and handball. This gives defenses and midfielders plenty of time to get back and setup against us, which makes the forwards job difficult. But we also don't have any good forwards who can find space in this environment.
We play to minimise the score and opposition can kick, and this makes the midfields job extremely hard as we are often one man down at the stoppage, as the opposition effectively gets an extra midfielder.
Until we are prepared to play 1:1 defence and then be more daring with hands through the midfield with guys like SPS, Murph, and Cunningham we are going to continue to struggle to kick a score and put sides away. We are good in an arm wrestle game, but struggle with Plan B.
And we also need to remember that their are 17 other teams who expecting natural growth and development from their under 23 brigade, so thinking this is going to be a game changer in 2018 is a big stretch. Of course we need it, but we also need big years from the players traded in to make a difference.
Re: 2018 - What do you expect from the club? - laj - 10-25-2017
Game plan will evovle over time. That's how it is with some rebuilds. Watch the skills suddenly improve with a more attacking game plan. Skills always look better ehen players have space to run onto the ball.
Re: 2018 - What do you expect from the club? - flyboy77 - 10-25-2017
What do I expect in 2018.
Significant improvement from all and sundry.
The young brigade - Kennedy (20), Lang (21), Marchy (20), Plow (23), Cuners (20), Fish (19), SPS (19), Wilson (Pickett) (21), Weiters (19), Harry Mc, Charlie C (20) and #3 and #10. Oops, I forgot Jack S (19), Willo (19) and possibly Macreadie (19) (whom I rate).
Most will be in the 50-70 game bracket come the end of next season.
These 15-16 young blokes control the immediate destiny and the future of this Club.
There is a lot of real, top end quality there - more than most Clubs easily (on paper at least). Guys who haven't been tainted by the years of mediocrity. And ones who will not accept mediocrity.
The new draftees (from the upcoming ND on 24 November) might have little impact but I remain hopeful #3 will be a big bodied type (Rayner ideally O0) who is ready to play.
Ditto #10 - hopefully (to my mind) Tim Kelly.
How fast they all 'develop' - individually and collectively - will determine how many games we win.
Personally, I think we'll be saying Bryce who by mid year.
We've still got a very solid core of older types - Ed Curnow, Murph, Special K, Rowe, ACOS, Simmo, Levi, Daisy, Jonesy, Jed Lamb, Wright, Kerridge.
Clearly, doing the maths, a few senior types will struggle for regular games as the youngsters press. But all are capable of playing a role, if required.
Then there's the Doc and Crippa - still young and both AA level players. And Byrne.
I'm a glass half full type - 11-12 wins in 2018. :o :o
They say you need 6 or more A graders to be at the 'top' or thereabouts - my top 6 come 2019?
C. Curnow, Weiters, Cripps, Doc, SPS and Jones.
(apologies to Special K, Smurf, Marchbank and Matt Kennedy)
2019 will be the 'bang' year imo - especially if Mr Wines joins the Blues' train!
Re: 2018 - What do you expect from the club? - ElwoodBlues1 - 10-25-2017
(10-25-2017, 03:43 AM)sydneybluesfan link Wrote:The crazy thing about our stats is that we are the highest kicking team on average in the comp, but we are ranked dead last on handballs - so are last in total disposals per game.
There is cause and effect in everything in football. We play safety first football and kick a lot, which means we get very little overlap run and handball. This gives defenses and midfielders plenty of time to get back and setup against us, which makes the forwards job difficult. But we also don't have any good forwards who can find space in this environment.
We play to minimise the score and opposition can kick, and this makes the midfields job extremely hard as we are often one man down at the stoppage, as the opposition effectively gets an extra midfielder.
Until we are prepared to play 1:1 defence and then be more daring with hands through the midfield with guys like SPS, Murph, and Cunningham we are going to continue to struggle to kick a score and put sides away. We are good in an arm wrestle game, but struggle with Plan B.
And we also need to remember that their are 17 other teams who expecting natural growth and development from their under 23 brigade, so thinking this is going to be a game changer in 2018 is a big stretch. Of course we need it, but we also need big years from the players traded in to make a difference.
Midfield has been overrated IMO...poor in clearances and Inside 50's......plus we man opposing mids poorly, Curnow excepted. Too many opposing mids have too much of the ball, players like Zorko burn us every year and nothing changes...
Re: 2018 - What do you expect from the club? - kruddler - 10-25-2017
(10-25-2017, 06:46 AM)flyboy77 link Wrote:What do I expect in 2018.See, i think i've found your problem, you are a year ahead of everyone else.
Significant improvement from all and sundry.
The young brigade - Kennedy (20), Lang (21), Marchy (20), Plow (23), Cuners (20), Fish (19), SPS (19), Wilson (Pickett) (21), Weiters (19), Harry Mc, Charlie C (20) and #3 and #10. Oops, I forgot Jack S (19), Willo (19) and possibly Macreadie (19) (whom I rate).
Most will be in the 50-70 game bracket come the end of next season.
If all the players play 22 games next year (unlikely, but possible) then only 4 from the 16 will be in that 50-70 bracket.
If all players play every game in the next 2 years, THEN 13/16 will be in that bracket.
You can EXPECT them to do most of the heavy lifting in 2018, but they will not be ready to do that until 2019....by your own criteria.
Simply, you expect too much too soon.
Re: 2018 - What do you expect from the club? - Jack Burton - 10-25-2017
This is true. Next year will be another development year, we'll see some exciting signs and will snatch a few games, but 2019 is when we will start our charge up the ladder
Re: 2018 - What do you expect from the club? - flyboy77 - 10-25-2017
One thing I am is a maths geek...you were being cute with the numbers. And at no stage did I say these young blokes would do the majority of the heavy lifting in 2018.
Now 2018 2019
Kennedy 19 41 63
Lang 44 66 88
Marchy 23 45 67
Plowman 60 82 104
SoJ 28 50 72
SPS 20 42 64
Fisher 15 37 59
Willo 15 37 59
Macreadie 8 30 52
Curnow 27 49 71
Weitering 42 64 86
Cuners 11 33 55
Pickett 10 32 54