(11-29-2016, 03:37 AM)shadesy link Wrote:The sooner we realise the old FF,CHF, Winger, FB positions are obsolete in this game, the better we will be at not pigeonholing players to certain roles based on height weight etc.

Mid's are supposedly getting bigger and KPF's smaller. Talent, Competitiveness, disposal and decision making are what makes a good football team.

(11-29-2016, 04:21 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Some positions are about pure nous.....Tory Dickson is no Charlie Curnow in terms of athletic ability and no Fev in terms of flair or strength. He just reads the game well like all good forwards and relies on rat cunning to get on his own and more often that not he is 20-40m in front of goal with the easy kick.
Charlie Curnow would be a waste at FF IMO in the modern game...we need a bloke with his X factor getting the ball down forward, taking the match saving mark down back or winning the big contest in the middle of the ground..like a Kouta or Bontempelli...in terms of pure talent Charlie Curnow is probably the best player on the list and we need to maximise his value not waste it...

(11-28-2016, 08:00 PM)Raydan link Wrote:Again I don't understand the negative posts here. For the posts complaining about a lack of forward drafting, we took three tall forwards last season. If one more person say Charlie Curnow is a midfielder i'll lose my sh1t. He moves like a forward, marks and kicks like a forward and has never played midfield in his footy career. He was going to play midfield in his last season at U18's but got injured.

(11-29-2016, 07:02 AM)kruddler link Wrote:*Hands raydan a bucket*

Curnowfides, is a curnow. Curnows run. Both Ed, and their sister (whose name escapes me at present) are freak athletes who run.

N. Riewoldt can outdo most mids with his running ability. He has rarely been played as a FF because to do so would waste his running ability.

Putting Curnowfides at FF is a waste.
Having him at CHF is a better option. However, i prefer him to play on a wing. N. Riewoldt has moved to a wing in the twilight of his career and is causing headaches. Richo moved to the wing in the twilight of his career and caused havoc too. One of the best games Jarrad Waite played in navy blue was when we moved him onto the wing to try and quell a rampaging Richo. He matched and beat him kicking 3 goals IIRC and the tigers had no answer for him....like most didn't with Richo.

I see Charlie more like an Everitt type. Plays better as a running player rather than a key target.

If we choose to play him forward, i don't want it to be as a key forward. SOSOS has limited options as to where he plays, but has 3rd forward nailed. Do we want Curnow to be a 4th? I'd prefer him on a wing.

(11-29-2016, 07:02 AM)kruddler link Wrote:*Hands raydan a bucket*

Curnowfides, is a curnow. Curnows run. Both Ed, and their sister (whose name escapes me at present) are freak athletes who run.

N. Riewoldt can outdo most mids with his running ability. He has rarely been played as a FF because to do so would waste his running ability.

Putting Curnowfides at FF is a waste.
Having him at CHF is a better option. However, i prefer him to play on a wing. N. Riewoldt has moved to a wing in the twilight of his career and is causing headaches. Richo moved to the wing in the twilight of his career and caused havoc too. One of the best games Jarrad Waite played in navy blue was when we moved him onto the wing to try and quell a rampaging Richo. He matched and beat him kicking 3 goals IIRC and the tigers had no answer for him....like most didn't with Richo.

I see Charlie more like an Everitt type. Plays better as a running player rather than a key target.

If we choose to play him forward, i don't want it to be as a key forward. SOSOS has limited options as to where he plays, but has 3rd forward nailed. Do we want Curnow to be a 4th? I'd prefer him on a wing.

(11-28-2016, 08:00 PM)Raydan link Wrote:Again I don't understand the negative posts here. For the posts complaining about a lack of forward drafting, we took three tall forwards last season. If one more person say Charlie Curnow is a midfielder i'll lose my sh1t. He moves like a forward, marks and kicks like a forward and has never played midfield in his footy career. He was going to play midfield in his last season at U18's but got injured.

We got another tall forward this year and will get another one next season Ben Silvagni. Surely that's enough for now.

We need mids who have speed and can kick and that's what we got.

Look at the last 4 premiers, their forward lines may have some height up there but the damage is done with small flankers, and their midfield collectively on had Bontempelli a the big mid although Roughead did swing through there for Hawthorn.

I don't know how many of you looked at the draft but there wasn't much on offer for big forwards or big bodied mids. Brodie was about the only class one and there are very big questions over his ability to play two way football. SPS and Fisher are known for their defensive run

(11-29-2016, 09:48 AM)jeza link Wrote:Just because he leads well, jumping high, marks well and kicks goals - what makes you say he's a forward?

Haven't you heard he has endurance? Must be a midfielder. A Koutafides Koutoufides if you will.

(11-29-2016, 09:48 AM)jeza link Wrote:Just because he leads well, jumping high, marks well and kicks goals - what makes you say he's a forward?

Haven't you heard he has endurance? Must be a midfielder. A Koutafides if you will.

(11-29-2016, 10:01 AM)BluePhantom link Wrote:When was the last time we had someone who lead well, jumped high, marked well and kick goals? :o