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Re: Rd 3: Carlton vs Gold Coast: Post Game Pain - PaulP - 04-09-2016
(04-09-2016, 01:33 PM)MilkIt link Wrote:I'm not convinced our fitness base is the problem. Our players just don't play intelligent footy. They don't run to the right positions and they don't make it easy for their team mates. When was the last time you saw Hodge, Lewis and Mitchell gut-running to cover turnovers or fast ball movement from the opposition? It just puts too much pressure on our defenders and causes the midfield to run out of gas.
I'm not convinced it's poor disposal half of the time either. it's the players up field not working together to create space and to present a clear target for our players to hit up. How often do we kick to a player that has one or two defenders hanging off them? They need to be smarter, work together, and create space for themselves.
Smart teams conserve energy and win games by being efficient.
I like this post. There's something in this IMO. A successful kick in general play needs both the kicker and receiver to know what to do. You can be the best kick in the world - if your intended target doesn't know how to receive a kick.............
It's very easy to blame the kicker all the time.
There's also a certain performance anxiety, a real inability to deal with close checking, gut running and pressure from the opposition. According to 1AW, everything works beautifully training, but clearly not in game.
Bolts echoed the general sentiments on here in his presser. Pleased with effort in the first 3q, not so much the 4th. Said 11 of their goals came from turnovers, which is almost all their score. Said the turnovers are a combination of poor skill and poor decision making.
EDIT : Bolts also mentioned that players not up to it will be moved on. A little Captain Obvious, but also a little startling to hear from a new coach so early in the season. Reckon he and SOS are already sharpening their John Neeman American Felling Axes for a serious workout at seasons end.
Re: Rd 3: Carlton vs Gold Coast: Post Game Pain - BluePhantom - 04-09-2016
(04-09-2016, 12:22 PM)bignic link Wrote:As for our coaching staff and I use the term coaching loosly, I ask what sort of a game plan is it when whomever kicks out after a behind is scored, has got no idea what to do, where there is no forward line structure or a plan to maximize forward entries as far as possinble, where handballs fall at the feet of players, and players cannot hit a target when they pass, and where, if the ball is turned over, our players look up, and there is not ONE forward who has been told to stay within the 50 metre attacking arc for just such an occurrence.
What the FK have they been doing for 5 months.
We face yet another long hard season ahead. And yes, I know it's a young team and we are rebuilding blah blah blah blah, but when you are paying players between 150 and 500 grand a year and they can't execute basic skills, then you have to say that the club is going nowhere, and forget about a 5 year rebuild, it will be more like ten.
Saved me typing the same thing Bignic.
Re: Rd 3: Carlton vs Gold Coast: Post Game Pain - blueday - 04-09-2016
(04-09-2016, 12:40 PM)cimm1979 link Wrote:Game 3 of a rebuild and peeps want wins away from home, against a red hot team in slippery conditions.
^^^ this
Funny people follow this club.
Re: Rd 3: Carlton vs Gold Coast: Post Game Pain - BluePhantom - 04-09-2016
(04-09-2016, 01:33 PM)MilkIt link Wrote:I'm not convinced our fitness base is the problem. Our players just don't play intelligent footy. They don't run to the right positions and they don't make it easy for their team mates. When was the last time you saw Hodge, Lewis and Mitchell gut-running to cover turnovers or fast ball movement from the opposition? It just puts too much pressure on our defenders and causes the midfield to run out of gas.By George I think he's got it!
I'm not convinced it's poor disposal half of the time either. it's the players up field not working together to create space and to present a clear target for our players to hit up. How often do we kick to a player that has one or two defenders hanging off them? They need to be smarter, work together, and create space for themselves.
Smart teams conserve energy and win games by being efficient.
Re: Rd 3: Carlton vs Gold Coast: Post Game Pain - PassIt2Carrots - 04-09-2016
(04-09-2016, 12:32 PM)JonHenry link Wrote:Remember Henderson & Menzel.
We also have the advantage of every other club seeing Waite, Betts, Garlett and Robinson at other clubs
We gave the latter away for nothing and let Mick replace them with peripheral plodders. No wonder we are so far behind. Mick has set us back 10 years. Thanks Swanny, and thanks Sticks.
Re: Rd 3: Carlton vs Gold Coast: Post Game Pain - shawny - 04-09-2016
Is it just me or does cripps not look right.
Mentioned it before but seems to jog jog around the place and either can't run hard or refuses to.
I understand he is a inside player but his lack of defensive pressure and general ease that players get away from him is worrying. Amazing talent but just unsure why he won't run.
Also geez Murphy disappointed last night.
He was pushed off the ball more then usual lacked any spark and player like it was still a NAB game. Looked underdone and dos interested.
Not what you want from a experienced player in a young rebuilding team. Definitely not what you want to see from your captain.
Weitering has to get the nomination for rising star this week. That's the only positive I could find.
Re: Rd 3: Carlton vs Gold Coast: Post Game Pain - kruddler - 04-09-2016
(04-09-2016, 10:06 PM)PassIt2Carrots link Wrote:We gave the latter away for nothing and let Mick replace them with peripheral plodders. No wonder we are so far behind. Mick has set us back 10 years. Thanks Swanny, and thanks Sticks.
F*** this again?!
For tha bazillionth time, why is there no $hit slung at Andy McKay?
Re: Rd 3: Carlton vs Gold Coast: Post Game Pain - PassIt2Carrots - 04-09-2016
(04-09-2016, 12:38 PM)bignic link Wrote:AND, if I hear Bolton say, "it's a learning process" or "it's a fkn journey" one more time, I'll throw up.
I'm getting sick and tired of hearing it.
I want him to be honest and say, "we are not up to it, our skill level is non fkn existent, and I'm sorry to say this to the 47,000 people who have parted with their hard earned to buy a membership, but it's going to be a long hard year."
Yeah, blame the list after 3 rounds of football. Great idea, maybe we can then turn these 10 goals losses into 20 goal losses and replace the coach in 6 months time. Seriously stupid stuff right there.
Back the coach in, he has little to work with. When the majority of your senior core are frauds there is not too much you can do about it. Gibbs and Murphy must trade at years end.
Did anyone see that bit of play in the first term where first Murphy and then Gibbs were released into space on their left sides but could not make it work because they have no fking left foot. Both had to stop, prop, and then wheel around hence stalling the attack. That's what we have, two blokes that have had it so easy they never even bothered to develop a left foot. Just pathetic.
Re: Rd 3: Carlton vs Gold Coast: Post Game Pain - PassIt2Carrots - 04-09-2016
(04-09-2016, 10:09 PM)kruddler link Wrote:F*** this again?!
For tha bazillionth time, why is there no $hit slung at Andy McKay?
Him too bro, if he oversaw the whole thing then he is no doubt also to blame and should go.
Re: Rd 3: Carlton vs Gold Coast: Post Game Pain - PassIt2Carrots - 04-09-2016
(04-09-2016, 10:07 PM)shawny link Wrote:Is it just me or does cripps not look right.
Mentioned it before but seems to jog jog around the place and either can't run hard or refuses to.
Played with a big corky last two weeks.