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Re: Rnd 6 Carlton v Brisbane-post mortem - Vivian - 05-10-2015
Grim stuff from a team that cant get much lower.
Casboult played a very good game, had more presence around the ground and finishing with four goals is a very good return. Well done. Other good efforts were by Bell, who is really improving as a player, despite disposal lapses here and there. Docherty put in a good effort. Cripps did ok. Boekhorst ran to the right places and gave himself opportunities, hopefully he keeps backing himself. And they are about it really, as i am struggling to find any other winners.
Our field kicking continues to be simply dreadful and not at an acceptable standard for league football. Despite winning clearences well in the first half, we turned the ball over with devestating regularity. Biggest issue for mine is the poor midfield work that leads to a clearence being aimlessly booted forward, high and long and easily cut off. Terrible football.
Walker was horrific and not sure why he is worth playing really as his mistakes and ease that we went to ground cost goals. Buckly is a real worry. Still undersized and not as fast as he needs to be be to make up for his slight build. 3 years on the list suggests he won't be around for much longer. Everitt is one of those unfortunate cases of a tall player that plays small and has little influence. Gibbs just wants out, and exemplified by his over the head handpass that went straight to an opponent. Let him seek a trade as his casual attitude makes Ryan Houlihan look like a contested ball maniac.
Just a mess. Consistently congested forward line, poor kicking forward and a lack of run. When Bell won the footy (second quarter i think) at half back and ran forward and had no one to kick to i knew we were going to lose. Play had been around half back, not at all deep and yet we had no options. Lazy and dispirited.
Only round 6 and it has been a long season. We are looking at the longest season since...last season...
Re: Rnd 6 Carlton v Brisbane-post mortem - DJC - 05-10-2015
I think this will be my last comment on this very disappointing game.
Tom Bell played another good game and continues to show how far he has come as a player. One of the plays he was involved in today really epitomised how hard we have made what should be a relatively simple game. Bell took on two opponents and won the ball at halfback. He was on the move and started to head down the ground when he realised that there weren't any Carlton players in front of him. What should have been several bounces and/or a chain of possessions leading to an inspirational goal fizzled out when Bell had to pull up and turn back to kick the ball back towards the Brisbane goal.
I'd love to see our players given the freedom to take the game on.
Re: Rnd 6 Carlton v Brisbane-post mortem - ItsOurTime - 05-10-2015
(05-10-2015, 10:25 AM)Vivian link Wrote:Only round 6 and it has been a long season.
Nice way to put it. It's been excruciating. (Thought Hoops became a reasonable ball winner in close towards the end
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Re: Rnd 6 Carlton v Brisbane-post mortem - ItsOurTime - 05-10-2015
(05-10-2015, 10:27 AM)DJC link Wrote:I'd love to see our players given the freedom to take the game on.
That's the biggest problem. Brisbane are shizen but when they have the chance, which isn;t often, they play their game. You can see what they are trying to do, they just don't have the ability. We control the ball, fuck me if I can pick what's happening - grind it forward, hope a goal eventuates from it.
Re: Rnd 6 Carlton v Brisbane-post mortem - flyboy77 - 05-10-2015
Not excusing the players but the game plan clearly sucks - or is non existent - and for that the blame must lie at the feet of Mick.
Re: Rnd 6 Carlton v Brisbane-post mortem - Mantis - 05-10-2015
DJC that play was when Bell was running full steam across the wing, and he had to completely stop. Not one Carlton player was running forward. 2 kicks later the ball was landing in the goal square 80m behind where he had the ball. What the fark is that ? Who instructs this style of play ? If its Mick, he has to be shown the door ASAP.
Re: Rnd 6 Carlton v Brisbane-post mortem - PassIt2Carrots - 05-10-2015
Cas, Bell and Dochery the standouts.
Re: Rnd 6 Carlton v Brisbane-post mortem - LordLucifer - 05-10-2015
(05-10-2015, 08:55 AM)Brettie link Wrote:Yeah - that Buckley, he's awesome, his dash out of defence & the way he uses the footy......oh wait
......and Jaksch - wow, what's not to like about Jaksch, the way he imposes himself and his kicking......oh wait
......and Whiley, man - what an awesome tagger he is and that pace.......oh wait
......and Boekhorst - great to see him NOT play like Kane Lucas and then kick that clutch goal in the last......oh wait
I'll give you Clem Smith, who finally showed a bit today (despite 2 horrific kicking clangers) & can't comment on Graham due to his usual lack of game-time, but the rest of them you must surely be taking the p!ss....surely.
But Brettie, we have to put some faith in these young guys because they are the next generation. Players like Armfield, Carrazzo, Warnock & co are going to be put out to pasture.
Re: Rnd 6 Carlton v Brisbane-post mortem - JonHenry - 05-10-2015
(05-10-2015, 08:40 AM)laj link Wrote:Proving you don't know much
Without taking into account current form but on this list is:
Walker
Menzel
Murphy
Gibbs
Judd
Simpson
Kreuzer
Cripps
Yarran
Docherty
Jaksch
Henderson
Bell
Everitt
Curnow
Byrne
Thomas
Jamison
Casboult
Touhy
Not a Hawthorn list but certainly something a half decent coach can easily work with. Certainly not a bottom of the ladder list. If you say that lacks ability then I'll just point and laugh. We are so badly coached right now that we have the life sucked right out of us. Game plan and structure is awful.
Ability and potential are a load of crap.
How many coaches does it take for these guys to grow a pair and play anywhere near their ability?
Trade the soft cunts, sack MM and start again.
At least Cripps and bell have a go
Re: Rnd 6 Carlton v Brisbane-post mortem - laj - 05-10-2015
(05-10-2015, 10:43 AM)JonHenry link Wrote:Ability and potential are a load of crap.
How many coaches does it take for these guys to grow a pair and play anywhere near their ability?
Trade the soft ****s, sack MM and start again.
At least Cripps and bell have a go
They went alright with one coach.