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Re: Round #4 Carlton vs St. Kilda in NZ: Pre Game prognostications - ItsOurTime - 04-20-2015
(04-20-2015, 08:11 AM)kruddler link Wrote:One of the best 1-liners i can remember was said by Brettie in an in-game thread when we played the Bulldogs sometime during the Ratten era.
Something along the lines of...
"As far as i can tell, our gameplan is to kick it directly to Brian Lake and hope his jumper changes colour"
Oi! I think that was me
If not, it wouldn't be Brettie, he wouldn't dare be seen frequenting an unofficial fan site while strutting through the Medallion club or MCC
Re: Round #4 Carlton vs St. Kilda in NZ: Pre Game prognostications - BluePhantom - 04-20-2015
(04-20-2015, 08:11 AM)kruddler link Wrote:That says more about your memory than any game plan issues.
One of the best 1-liners i can remember was said by Brettie in an in-game thread when we played the Bulldogs sometime during the Ratten era.
Something along the lines of...
"As far as i can tell, our gameplan is to kick it directly to Brian Lake and hope his jumper changes colour"
It's been happening for longer than anyone cares to remember. You're a lucky one because you've been able to forget!
That is one of my endearing qualities
Re: Round #4 Carlton vs St. Kilda in NZ: Pre Game prognostications - Juddkreuzer - 04-20-2015
(04-20-2015, 08:51 AM)DJC link Wrote:Most, if not all, other teams use a string of handpasses to get the ball to a runner in the clear. This results in a balanced kick not under pressure or a couple of bounces and a measured kick.
Our reluctance to handpass creatively means that our disposal by foot is under pressure and misdirected as a result.
Okay sorry about the video titles, some tosser (probably a DC scum supporter) has put these on you tube. But they illustrate how even our greatest player of the past decade butchers the ball at times under no pressure. Interesting how Bruce says in the second video (Ratten era) that "we're getting used to sloppy play by Carlton" By no means is this a slight on the great man, but it sets a standard.
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[flash=400,400]https://www.youtube.com/v/Za_lQAnFq80[/flash]
Re: Round #4 Carlton vs St. Kilda in NZ: Pre Game prognostications - DJC - 04-20-2015
All players butcher the ball occasionally, we're just more consistent
Re: Round #4 Carlton vs St. Kilda in NZ: Pre Game prognostications - Professer E - 04-20-2015
It has been long known that Judd ain't the best kick in the world.. Hasn't stopped him influencing a lot of games.
I'm sure I could trawl Utube and come across numerous clips of hack scraggers like Melksham blocking Judd's run at the ball and holding at every contest.... holding that is so frequent yet infrequently penalised.
Re: Round #4 Carlton vs St. Kilda in NZ: Pre Game prognostications - Juddkreuzer - 04-20-2015
(04-20-2015, 09:52 AM)Professer E link Wrote:It has been long known that Judd ain't the best kick in the world.. Hasn't stopped him influencing a lot of games.
I'm sure I could trawl Utube and come across numerous clips of hack scraggers like Melksham blocking Judd's run at the ball and holding at every contest.... holding that is so frequent yet infrequently penalised.
Funny thing was I searched "Hawthorn turnovers" to see if I could find examples of the best club by foot turning it over and there was nothing for the Hawks other than a press conference but these Juddy Vids were there.
Re: Round #4 Carlton vs St. Kilda in NZ: Pre Game prognostications - Juddkreuzer - 04-20-2015
Quote:CARLTON
The turnover Blues: Turnovers killed the Blues in 2014. Despite averaging the fourth-fewest turnovers in the competition (61.2 a game), they were scored against 25.9 per cent of the time when they did, with only St Kilda punished more often. They also conceded the fourth-highest score from turnovers (55.9 points a game). But it was the Blues' midfield turnovers that hurt them the most. They conceded more points than any other side in this area (869) and were scored against 29.3 per cent of the time, 2.6 per cent more than the next worst team.
So clearly when we turn it over we pay severely.
Re: Round #4 Carlton vs St. Kilda in NZ: Pre Game prognostications - Baggers - 04-20-2015
Got my tickets, looking forward to watching the boys do us proud on Anzac Day. And being in the company of Kiwis makes the event even more significant, for historical reasons... and for them to witness proper football.
Re: Round #4 Carlton vs St. Kilda in NZ: Pre Game prognostications - cookie2 - 04-20-2015
(04-20-2015, 10:08 AM)Juddkreuzer link Wrote:So clearly when we turn it over we pay severely.
Thanks for that JK. That was my anecdotal impression. When we give up a turnover we are just badly exposed and can't get back to cover the opposition's ball movement. Couple that with our poor kicking for goal and you go along way to explaining our predicament atm.
Re: Round #4 Carlton vs St. Kilda in NZ: Pre Game prognostications - DontgoJuddy - 04-20-2015
(04-20-2015, 10:14 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:Thanks for that JK. That was my anecdotal impression. When we give up a turnover we are just badly exposed and can't get back to cover the opposition's ball movement. Couple that with our poor kicking for goal and you go along way to explaining our predicament atm.I am not 100% sure how AFL define their Clangers stat however I googled it and Ted Hopkins of Champion Data defines it as a Turnover or mistake. I was staggered to learn that in 2014, Carlton had the fewest total number of Clangers of any Club. You read it correctly, the fewest. 912 for the year to be exact. PA made the most with 1151. So far this year, we have the 4th fewest. So it seems though that we get scored heavily against us from our TO's (or clangers) which means its all about where, who and how we turn it over perhaps.