(08-19-2021, 05:46 AM)PaulP link Wrote:One has to wonder, with this newfound emphasis on (wait for it).............winning games of football, how does this affect the new coach ? It seems clear to me that the club is expecting results instantly, so if it's Lyon, he will want to remake the team in his image, as all coaches do. How long will it take him to take the boys from attack to defence, bigger, stronger bodies, more tackling, more stoppages, etc. ? Can you do that in 1 pre season ? It seems highly likely that there will be a down period while he tinkers to get things on his terms. What if he misses finals next season ?

Surely the quickest way forward is to stick with Teague and iron out the kinks, rather than yet another dramatic change ?

(08-19-2021, 05:49 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:If Clarko or Lyon come in it will have to be another reset. It won't be as bad as when Mick took over a team on the slide but it will take some time to bring a more defensive style to Carlton.

(08-19-2021, 05:07 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Don't shoot the messenger. I'm not shooting the messenger, simply suggesting his interests would be better served telling his truth to the people involved, directly and not publicly. It does not serve him to attempt to embarrass his employer publicly... it only satiates the bloodlust of the media and public. Speaking his truth directly to those concerned is far more beneficial.
Teague speaks the truth (like malthouse). It's uncomfortable to hear, but it's the truth. See above! It's no less the truth by speaking it to those directly responsible. MM too often chose to attempt to manipulate public perceptions and his employer with public comments. But he can handle himself with this kind of approach as he's got a few decades of success behind him. Ill-advised for The TT to travel the same road. Although it may be true, it also comes across to some as going the bleat, the whinge... publicly, which any future employer would not gather any confidence from.

You want Teague to our on a brave face and say 'all is well' so his replacement can come into the job... full of hope and optimism only to be fooled by the '3 idiots' conducting the review and those employing them? I don't want him to lie or bung on any false joy - just stick to talking about the team, not behind the scenes stuff... media sucked him in too easily. Declaring the folks doing the independent review as 'idiots' and those around them the same is a pretty unfortunate assumption without knowing much more about these people. If someone disagrees with us it doesn't automatically make them an idiot. They're just doing what they've been employed to do. We'll get to see the summary of their findings soon enough and then get to judge their work more accurately.

Play time is over.
Teague is upset and a lot in the media are starting to take his side... he has been treated very poorly. The media will take the side of anyone along as it's a juicy story/headline/clickbait - a fickle and vulturous creature is the media. Being 'treated very poorly' works both ways. I feel treated poorly, conned and deceived by what The TT and co. declared at the season's commencement after witnessing what we were dishing up early in the season - exactly the same inconsistent cr@p as last year. And if you look back to early posts this year you'll see that I expressed as such. Freddie the blind miner could see the direction of our season after very early rounds. In fact, 'same old, same old' were words used to describe us many, many times by mid season.

Now one more thing....
Someone made content about Clarko not commenting on the Carlton role, but Ross Lyon doing the opposite.
I've literally heard Ross say all year that he would not comment on a position that is not available....specifically in relation to coaching Carlton. So I'm not sure why he (appears to have) changed his mind on the matter other than that position has become available....at least privately. Remember there were rumours last week that the board had decided to sack Teague and was going to announce it....maybe they decided to wait a week? 'Maybe'... 'rumours'... not good foundations to build an argument upon.

Would make all the above make sense if true.

(08-19-2021, 05:49 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:If Clarko or Lyon come in it will have to be another reset. It won't be as bad as when Mick took over a team on the slide but it will take some time to bring a more defensive style to Carlton.

(08-19-2021, 05:46 AM)PaulP link Wrote:One has to wonder, with this newfound emphasis on (wait for it).............winning games of football, how does this affect the new coach ? It seems clear to me that the club is expecting results instantly, so if it's Lyon, he will want to remake the team in his image, as all coaches do. How long will it take him to take the boys from attack to defence, bigger, stronger bodies, more tackling, more stoppages, etc. ? Can you do that in 1 pre season ? It seems highly likely that there will be a down period while he tinkers to get things on his terms. What if he misses finals next season ?

Surely the quickest way forward is to stick with Teague and iron out the kinks, rather than yet another dramatic change ?

(08-19-2021, 05:52 AM)Baggers link Wrote:I'm not shooting the messenger, simply suggesting his interests would be better served telling his truth to the people involved, directly and not publicly. It does not serve him to attempt to embarrass his employer publicly... it only satiates the bloodlust of the media and public. Speaking his truth directly to those concerned is far more beneficial.

(08-19-2021, 03:14 AM)northernblue link Wrote:But they didnt offer Eddie a contract... so they have been driving this runaway tram.
They COULD have come out and announced the review (if they needed to) and stated (at any time) that Teague would coach the year out, but nah, death by a thousand cuts.

Its messy, its ugly its on their hands.

(08-19-2021, 06:47 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Mate they did, they asked Liddle (I think) at the start of the review and he said Teague is contracted for 2022 and will coach.
I dont know what else they had to do, he is still coach today and for all we know might very well coach next year. Right now, its rumour, inuendo and media speculation.