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Re: Football Department Review - PaulP - 08-19-2021
(08-19-2021, 02:24 AM)northernblue link Wrote:Grubby by Lyon, Grubby of the club to NOT support Teague until the review is handed in.
Bastards have white anted him from the get go.
I fully understand the non commentary bit, but they could have quite easily come out and hosed down some of the gossip... unless its true of course...
Unfortunately, I think the answer is right there.
Re: Football Department Review - PaulP - 08-19-2021
I hope I live long enough to see this kind coach "skirt chasing" expunged from the club forever. There's always a better one around the corner...........
Re: Football Department Review - northernblue - 08-19-2021
(08-19-2021, 02:38 AM)PaulP link Wrote:Unfortunately, I think the answer is right there.
So Mr Sayers, put your big girls blouse on and pull the trigger already, put the guy out of his misery.
But no, we dont want blood on our hands do we ?
Re: Football Department Review - capcom - 08-19-2021
(08-19-2021, 02:35 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:I'll respectfully disagree CC. In the past, we have been terrible in all aspects of the club.
No issues [member=160]Gointocarlton[/member] ... but I was homing in just this aspect of woeful management.
Re: Football Department Review - ElwoodBlues1 - 08-19-2021
(08-19-2021, 02:35 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:I'll respectfully disagree CC. In the past, we have been terrible in all aspects of the club. To me, today the status of the three main pillars of the club are:Think the jury is out on list management and talent...but agree on off field finances.
Off field finances - Tick
List Management and Talent - Tick
Football Department - Jury is yet to deliver the verdict.
If we can line up all three above with ticks, we'll be off and running. IF!
Many will probably say the board is a pillar, I think the board builds the pillars and so to my way of thinking, they have seen 2 pillars built to a satisfactory level (always room for improve sure), the most important one for me is the one they are look at now.
I have been super critical of the board, I still am mainly due to the outside influencers. I do want to see what direction they take at this fork in the road. For Sayers, he'll either be a hero or it will be over before it began.
I think the recruiting area will come under heavy scrutiny via the review and I can see changes being made. I also think a coach like Lyon will want a few more of his type of player who have a bit more spice to their game.
Re: Football Department Review - PaulP - 08-19-2021
(08-19-2021, 02:43 AM)northernblue link Wrote:So Mr Sayers, put your big girls blouse on and pull the trigger already, put the guy out of his misery.
But no, we dont want blood on our hands do we ?
Yep, if he waits long enough he can just say he is following through on the recommendations contained in the review. Someone with a better memory please correct me, but I don't remember the Tigers, Pies, or Cats reviews being as messy as this. Certainly with the Tigers, there was talk about sacking Hardwick, but I don't recall the fever pitch intensity that seems to follow Carlton around like a bad smell. These sorts of events at Carlton always feel distinctly Machiavellian.
Re: Football Department Review - WASurfer - 08-19-2021
Northern.....if the decision has been made to part ways with Teague, I don't think it was ever gonna be done this week once Eddie announced his retirement. He didn't deserve the focus to be taken off his magnificent career ending in the same week as the coach was axed.
Once it's all been revealed, will members & supporters find out what was in the review?
My gut feel for months has been Ross Lyon will get the gig and nothing has changed....but more than happy to be proven wrong if the Board decide to stick tough and back Teague in.
Re: Football Department Review - northernblue - 08-19-2021
(08-19-2021, 03:09 AM)WASurfer link Wrote:Northern.....if the decision has been made to part ways with Teague, I don't think it was ever gonna be done this week once Eddie announced his retirement. He didn't deserve the focus to be taken off his magnificent career ending in the same week as the coach was axed.
Once it's all been revealed, will members & supporters find out what was in the review?
My gut feel for months has been Ross Lyon will get the gig and nothing has changed....but more than happy to be proven wrong if the Board decide to stick tough and back Teague in.
But they didnt offer Eddie a contract... so they have been driving this runaway tram.
They COULD have come out and announced the review (if they needed to) and stated (at any time) that Teague would coach the year out, but nah, death by a thousand cuts.
Its messy, its ugly its on their hands.
Re: Football Department Review - Baggers - 08-19-2021
(08-19-2021, 01:47 AM)PaulP link Wrote:https://www.afl.com.au/news/666643/unless-ross-knows-something-then-i-plan-to-coach-next-year-teague
Well worth a read, but it's a little depressing tbh.
I'd be interested in knowing who is advising The TT. If anyone is.
Digs at the club re an environment that is not as psychologically safe as it could be, feeling unsupported by the club... and so on, is so very unwise although quite possibly true (that he feels this way) - these are things for behind closed doors, it's like he's attempting to solicit sympathy. Should he have to leave the club, what does this kind of public communication tell any future employer? It won't help. Almost sounds like he's been given advise by MM! Being a senior coach of an AFL club is no easy gig.
Leadership in professional sport is tough. Real tough, requiring very unique personality types. And those who succeed are not afraid to stand alone - they back themselves/are exceedingly self-reliant, are driven/passionate, ruthless and incredibly competitive. They don't rely on others around them to give them what they need, they create and build the environment they want, even demand - themselves.
If The TT is to depart the club then he should look at how others have handled such difficult situations. At our club, Den Den, Ratts and BB all left with class and dignity - publicly. MM, not so much.
Big change is never an easy transition and nailing the perfect formula is really difficult. It often comes down to your own strength, integrity and resilience... and a strong understanding that life aint fair, it is difficult. Realising that is more than half the battle.
Re: Football Department Review - PaulP - 08-19-2021
(08-19-2021, 03:14 AM)northernblue link Wrote:But they didnt offer Eddie a contract... so they have been driving this runaway tram.
They COULD have come out and announced the review (if they needed to) and stated (at any time) that Teague would coach the year out, but nah, death by a thousand cuts.
Its messy, its ugly its on their hands.
Yep, his sacking just has an air of inevitability. And his recent comments about the club offering no public support (and probably nothing in private either) are exactly what Malthouse said about his final period. And such comments won't endear him to the powers that be, even if they are correct.