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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - cookie2 - 07-12-2020

@Capcom
Thanks mate. I would  have thought that she would have been much more prominent,  but then again......

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - DJC - 07-12-2020

Which branch of the military has expertise in providing security at hotels?  Some of my old unit perhaps but it’s certainly not a task that 95% of the military are trained for.



Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Gointocarlton - 07-12-2020

(07-12-2020, 12:03 PM)DJC link Wrote:Which branch of the military has expertise in providing security at hotels?  Some of my old unit perhaps but it’s certainly not a task that 95% of the military are trained for.
I would guess one military person would have more brain power in one finger nail than the imbecile security guards combined chosen to guard the doors. What farken idiot would think it's a good idea to shag a potentially infected person? You couldn't make this shit up.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 07-12-2020

(07-12-2020, 12:03 PM)DJC date Wrote:Which branch of the military has expertise in providing security at hotels?  Some of my old unit perhaps but it’s certainly not a task that 95% of the military are trained for.
 What happens when some protester gobs in the face of a guy from the army who doesn't want to be there in the first place?

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - DJC - 07-12-2020

(07-12-2020, 01:24 PM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:I would guess one military person would have more brain power in one finger nail than the imbecile security guards combined chosen to guard the doors. What farken idiot would think it's a good idea to shag a potentially infected person? You couldn't make this crap up.

Many of the blokes I served with weren’t particularly sharp and some wouldn’t hesitate to shag a brown dog with three legs.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Professer E - 07-13-2020

...but its Andrews' fault

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Thryleon - 07-13-2020

For arguments sake, the security guards at the hotels were blokes who were displaced from their regular jobs as businesses closed, AND from what I understand, the majority of international travel was coming through Melbourne before filtering out to the rest of Australia.  Lets see how the other states go now with the infection rates rising again.

I dont necessarily think it was a bad idea for them to do what should have been the easiest security job in history.  Particularly in the context of keeping people who would have been out of work, in work.

At the end of the day, this biggest problem isn't the idea of putting security in that role.  Its the fact that the rhetoric that this pandemic isn't worth worrying about, for the greater portion of the population, and the voices screaming loudest about the damage to the economy are funnily enough the ones screaming that Dan failed, because he employed PRIVATE people to handle what should have been an elementary job.  Wear a mask, and make sure the people who are in their rooms stay put, practise hand hygiene, and keep your distance.

I can see it around me even now.  We have "stage 3 lockdown" and the vast majority of the populace don't seem to care.  They think this is all a conspiracy to control their freedoms.

You know, through history the tale tells a story of humanity having to find a way to survive.  The last 40 years has re written that history a bit.  Instead of having to find a way, we have lived through perhaps the easiest, and least challenging period of our history with everything at our fingertips.  Information, means, money, food.  The vast majority of our western societys have enjoyed unprecedented periods of the ability to thrive unencumbered.


As for Andrews and Mikakos, well, working on the inside of public health, I can see where their attentions were likely to be, and that was to ensure that there was enough PPE to go around.  I can tell you now the shortage of sanitiser, and PPE was noted as recently as May.  That means that irrespective of whom was running the hotel security, they were not going to be in adequate supply of said things.  Or would you guys prefer that it goes to security guards instead of health workers?

That whole event has been politicised, and left a very sour note in my mouth because with every Andrews argument I hear, I see information conveniently ignored because it doesnt fit the rhetoric.  You can see confirmation bias and hypocrisy in every argument.

FWIW, I dont agree with a proper lockdown now either, because frankly, I think that our hospitals are equipped to battle an onslaught, and only once we see a 100% rise in hospital admissions should we even start worrying.  We are currently at 40 admissions?  Thats not a hell of a lot really.  Closer to 100 and Id start to worry.


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - flyboy77 - 07-13-2020

(07-13-2020, 12:10 AM)Professer E link Wrote:...but its Andrews' fault

You got that right.

The only reason we're in lock down now is that the quarantine processes were deficient.

Dan finds the Coronavirus important enough to put his dopey, ugly scone on TV every day but was incapable of ensuring adequate procedures (and the right human resources) were in place.

That is a fact.

You really think he wasn't aware that Pallas had hived off the security gig to some union cronies?

That would be naive in the extreme.

The buck stops with him. What the f... else is he doing?

You may disagree but that's the way the game works and should work. For all sides of politics.


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 07-13-2020

Interesting Donald Trump has repeatedly stated it's only as bad as the Flu, then goes shopping to buy up the world's supply of Remdesivir.  Big Grin  :Smile

Words are meaningless, the real situation is being exposed by actions.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - capcom - 07-13-2020

(07-13-2020, 12:31 AM)flyboy77 link Wrote:The buck stops with him. What the f... else is he doing?

Nothing fly.  Save for total control and sanitised messages