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Re: Football Department Review - cookie2 - 08-18-2021
Lyon only if Clarko declines it imo.
Re: Football Department Review - PaulP - 08-18-2021
Rather than spending a bazillion dollars on a Lyon / Clarkson etc., then having bugger all money for good assistants, why not stick with Teague and surround him with decent lieutenants like the Rutten/Caracella/Giansiracusa combo ?
Re: Football Department Review - LP - 08-18-2021
While there is perhaps a bit of negativity surrounding Brad Lloyd with some fans, and scepticism regarding the appointment of Austin as a replacement for SOS, I can't say they have done much wrong. But have we seen much from them, they are basically criticised for being largely absent from the debate, have they had time to have an influence yet?
I thought Lloyd was better around the time of the Plowman MRP debacle, but I can't help but wonder if our Exec and Board are more focussed on the lost appeals fee than being outraged at the Plowman suspension. I'll bet you a penny to a pound that is the case! btw., A decision that has since been contradicted by the MRP and Tribunal more than once since the event, as a precedent it did not even last a month!
So I'd pose this question.
Given the board we have, and given that Liddle seems to run everything, how much of what 'they' do is a consequence of external interference. Do we get to judge them on merit, or is what we see or don't see a result of interference and constraints?
Should we expect anything to change under Sayers, or is it just more of the same?
Re: Football Department Review - northernblue - 08-18-2021
I too have absolutely zero idea how good Lloyd is at his job, but I was impressed that he went in to bat for both Williams and Plowman and challenged the tribunal, we lost but he flew the flag.
Re: Football Department Review - Gointocarlton - 08-18-2021
(08-18-2021, 10:07 PM)PaulP link Wrote:Rather than spending a bazillion dollars on a Lyon / Clarkson etc., then having bugger all money for good assistants, why not stick with Teague and surround him with decent lieutenants like the Rutten/Caracella/Giansiracusa combo ?It sounds like that ship has sailed, there will be new assistants, also a new head coach.
Re: Football Department Review - Gointocarlton - 08-18-2021
(08-18-2021, 10:08 PM)LP link Wrote:While there is perhaps a bit of negativity surrounding Brad Lloyd with some fans, and scepticism regarding the appointment of Austin as a replacement for SOS, I can't say they have done much wrong. But have we seen much from them, they are basically criticised for being largely absent from the debate, have they had time to have an influence yet?Hard for us to comment on how good or bad someone is as we dont know the inner workings and only go by speculation and innuendo or whether the person is some we like. What we do know is:
I thought Lloyd was better around the time of the Plowman MRP debacle, but I can't help but wonder if our Exec and Board are more focussed on the lost appeals fee than being outraged at the Plowman suspension. I'll bet you a penny to a pound that is the case! btw., A decision that has since been contradicted by the MRP and Tribunal more than once since the event, as a precedent it did not even last a month!
So I'd pose this question.
Given the board we have, and given that Liddle seems to run everything, how much of what 'they' do is a consequence of external interference. Do we get to judge them on merit, or is what we see or don't see a result of interference and constraints?
Should we expect anything to change under Sayers, or is it just more of the same?
- Our footy dept is being reviewed
- Many argue that it has underperformed
- Lloyd is the head of football
- Lloyd was seen meeting with Paul Licuria recently about the vacant List Managers role
Next week should be a fun week...not! Its awful as we are dealing with peoples livelihoods but every one who enters the footy caper knows that its a W-L business and your going to get fired one day irrespective of if you are 4 from 43 or have 4 premierships.
Re: Football Department Review - northernblue - 08-18-2021
GTC how long has Lloyd been in the job ?
12 months, 18 ?
Apart from having a tosser for a brother I’m not sure if he is/should be in the gun…?
Re: Football Department Review - Gointocarlton - 08-18-2021
(08-18-2021, 10:54 PM)northernblue link Wrote:GTC how long has Lloyd been in the job ?Again, I don't know if he is good or bad at the FM job. I personally don't like him because he is a Lloyd but thats silly and irrelevant. The fact that he was seen speaking to Licuria suggests to me he has probably been told he will be moved on from the FM position. By default, that would mean the Footy Dept has been evaluated as poor and him being the head of it means he has failed. Again, I have no idea whether he has not, I am trying to put the pieces together based on what we think we know. At the end of the day, I am sad that we are here again, I hope (again) they get it right this time.
12 months, 18 ?
Apart from having a tosser for a brother I’m not sure if he is/should be in the gun…?
Re: Football Department Review - LoveNavy - 08-18-2021
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-19/afl-collingwood-carlton-ross-lyon-david-teague/100389292
Re: Football Department Review - PaulP - 08-18-2021
(08-18-2021, 11:30 PM)LoveNavy link Wrote:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-19/afl-collingwood-carlton-ross-lyon-david-teague/100389292
Lyon also said he had rebuffed an approach from Collingwood about that club's head coaching vacancy
"Graham reached out to a friend to get my number ... I said respectfully I wouldn't entertain that for a variety of reasons," he said.
"Ultimately I think successful clubs … have got alignment of where they're at and where they're going, and if you see misalignment it's a red flag."
Rossco, old son, you're losing it man. Carlton is the faction capital of the world.