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Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney - Thryleon - 05-19-2024
(05-19-2024, 04:19 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:If we beat both Port and Essendon we are are back on track, lose one or both and we are going to play catchup with the top 4 imho. I expect to beat Gold Coast comfortably....I can't see our next win at the minute. We can't run out games. Next week against the Suns at marvel is no guarantee.
Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney - crashlander - 05-19-2024
(05-19-2024, 04:51 AM)tonyo link Wrote:Hmmmm tagging, or scragging, or free kick every day of the week? Time to show this to the umpires' department.....Absolutely. Shocking, and not uncommon.
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Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney - ElwoodBlues1 - 05-19-2024
(05-19-2024, 07:46 AM)crashlander link Wrote:Absolutely. Shocking, and not uncommon.Swans would argue Heeney/Warner were being held most of the time as well and I think this is why umps dont bother calling these frees...
Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney - Gointocarlton - 05-19-2024
(05-19-2024, 08:04 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Swans would argue Heeney/Warner were being held most of the time as well and I think this is why umps dont bother calling these frees...Agree, I think the holding and blocking at stoppages happens on both sides, it has to be very bad to be paid. What I won't cop is the over the shoulder and head high contact of fwds, Harry and Charlie copped quite a few and didn't get one free. Not that it would have made a difference to the shellacking we copped, just saying.
Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney - LP - 05-19-2024
(05-19-2024, 09:00 AM)Gointocarlton date Wrote:Agree, I think the holding and blocking at stoppages happens on both sides, it has to be very bad to be paid.What happens to Walsh and Cripps is horrendous, our taggers barely make contact by comparison, our blokes are disadvantaged because we aren't being coached to go outside the rules.
Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney - Blue Moon - 05-19-2024
That was an ordinary effort. I haven't been all in on Carlton this year but I was beginning to think we could go all right. In both the Sydney and Collingwood games we have been out tackled and I think our tackling has been pretty ordinary all year. You tackle with your body and not with just your arms. Once again our disposal, ball handling and decision making under pressure was poor. The missing of goals from 10 metres out directly in front deblitates the team. TDK had a shocker but should have received a free kick for a head high knock. Not sure how a guy gets his hands to the ball first and then gets the ball kicked out of his hands gets a free kick paid against him. Don't understand why the ball was not brought back when the bounce gave no chance for Pittonett to contest. Fantasia has been a disappointment and Durdin doesn't get near the ball often enough.
I think we have developed a very good list but I have been concerned about our lack of pace which has been getting addressed over the past couple of drafts. It is still a work in progress. One reason I liked Fisher was that he did have some pace. What we lack are players with blistering pace. Guys who can genuinely break the lines and run down opponents from behind. It is something I think we should be looking at.
Clearly it is time for everyone to strip off and jump into Ed Curnow's dam.
Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney - DJC - 05-19-2024
(05-19-2024, 09:23 AM)LP link Wrote:What happens to Walsh and Cripps is horrendous, our taggers barely make contact by comparison, our blokes are disadvantaged because we aren't being coached to go outside the rules.
We seem to get pinged for holding at stoppages more often than our opponents, despite being a lot less physical and blocking rather than grappling.
I know that we can’t blame the umpires for the result, and free kicks miraculously ended up at 19 apiece, but it’s where and when frees are and aren’t paid that makes a difference.
If the right decisions had been made in the first quarter, we would have had a six or seven goal lead at the first break. That’s the kind of margin that can affect team performance.
The bottom line is that the 23 blokes we had on the park weren’t good enough … but they could have been ?
Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney - Thryleon - 05-19-2024
(05-19-2024, 10:05 AM)DJC link Wrote:We seem to get pinged for holding at stoppages more often than our opponents, despite being a lot less physical and blocking rather than grappling.we somehow manage to have frees paid against us directly in front of goals but hardly ever get one ourselves.
I know that we can’t blame the umpires for the result, and free kicks miraculously ended up at 19 apiece, but it’s where and when frees are and aren’t paid that makes a difference.
If the right decisions had been made in the first quarter, we would have had a six or seven goal lead at the first break. That’s the kind of margin that can affect team performance.
The bottom line is that the 23 blokes we had on the park weren’t good enough … but they could have been ?
Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney - DJC - 05-19-2024
(05-19-2024, 10:39 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:we somehow manage to have frees paid against us directly in front of goals but hardly ever get one ourselves.
The two frees paid against Zac Williams for holding Elliott are a case in point. Collingwood defenders did exactly the same to our forwards several times later in the game and there wasn't a whistle to be heard.
Perhaps umpires wish to set the ground rules early in the game, possibly subconsciously, then relax their interpretation as the game progresses.
Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney - LP - 05-19-2024
(05-19-2024, 01:40 PM)DJC date Wrote:Perhaps umpires wish to set the ground rules early in the game, possibly subconsciously, then relax their interpretation as the game progresses.It's mostly about the crowd and the pre-game focus, umpires are human, regulars and stars get treated differently to walk ups.