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Re: AFL Rd 10 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - Thryleon - 05-21-2023

(05-21-2023, 09:57 AM)PaulP link Wrote:We just lost by 5 goals with more scoring shots to a team with a 20-2 W/L over the last 12 months, the current flag favourites, Voss is coaching with one eye on the team and one eye over his shoulder, and people say he's no good and has to go. Like that move has worked well in the past.
the scoring shots favoured us dramatically.  How many of those scoring shots were long kicks punched over the line rushed? 5.

Take those out of the equation because quite a few were not likely to score and how does it look?

Putrid.  The game was done halfway through the first quarter and we all knew it.



Re: AFL Rd 10 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - ElwoodBlues1 - 05-21-2023

(05-21-2023, 10:00 AM)kruddler link Wrote:We started well with 3 wins and a draw from our first 4 games.
Got ahead of ourselves and now its come back to bite us.
We'll work through it and realise that you have to be 100%, 100% of the time to be a legitimate competitor in this league.
Not there yet.
Hardly panic stations though.
Got carried away with a draw vs Richmond who are crap and got a win vs a injury hit hung over Geelong that inflated belief and expectations.
And yep got ahead of ourselves....lose vs the Injury hit Swans and we will be relying on other teams losing and that never works..

Re: AFL Rd 10 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - PaulP - 05-21-2023

(05-21-2023, 10:02 AM)LoveNavy link Wrote:Doesn't look at all like an argument to me.

Agree. More tension in my morning porridge.

Re: AFL Rd 10 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - PaulP - 05-21-2023

(05-21-2023, 10:03 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:the scoring shots favoured us dramatically.  How many of those scoring shots were long kicks punched over the line rushed? 5.

Take those out of the equation because quite a few were not likely to score and how does it look?

Putrid.  The game was done halfway through the first quarter and we all knew it.

I'm not suggesting we would have won, and I'm certainly not suggesting we were the better team, but the caterwauling and head hunting and wobblies that get thrown seem a big overreaction IMO.


Re: AFL Rd 10 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - kruddler - 05-21-2023

(05-21-2023, 10:03 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:the scoring shots favoured us dramatically.  How many of those scoring shots were long kicks punched over the line rushed? 5.

Take those out of the equation because quite a few were not likely to score and how does it look?

Putrid.  The game was done halfway through the first quarter and we all knew it.

Look at the stats and across the board it was an 'even' contest.
Same inside 50's
Same tackles
Similar contested possessions
Similar turnovers
Similar 1%
Similar disposal efficiency (we actually had slightly better)
Same efficiency inside 50.

Ultimately, they converted, we did not.
They were under less pressure than we were under, all over the ground, including in front of goal.

A bit more luck in front of goal, tables are turned, pressure is reversed, its game on.
But they got too much too soon and blew us out of the water. We came back but they are too good to let us make a difference.



Re: AFL Rd 10 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - WASurfer - 05-21-2023

Surely we can't go again with the 3 smalls in Durdin, Owies and Motlop....it's simply not working? Our midfielders don't hit the scoreboard. Charlie manages to find goals nearly every week and without him, we'd be even further down the ladder. Is it time to just simply try something different? Play Marchbank down back and push McGovern forward....drop Young...Sydney aren't blessed with tall forwards at the moment with their injuries. Brink TDK back in. I don't really get to see the VFL games but Dow another big game with 40 possessions. That said, SCG is a small ground which probably doesn't help us.

Re: AFL Rd 10 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - rocky - 05-21-2023

(05-21-2023, 10:12 AM)WASurfer link Wrote:Surely we can't go again with the 3 smalls in Durdin, Owies and Motlop....it's simply not working? Our midfielders don't hit the scoreboard. Charlie manages to find goals nearly every week and without him, we'd be even further down the ladder. Is it time to just simply try something different? Play Marchbank down back and push McGovern forward....drop Young...Sydney aren't blessed with tall forwards at the moment with their injuries. Brink TDK back in. I don't really get to see the VFL games but Dow another big game with 40 possessions. That said, SCG is a small ground which probably doesn't help us.
IMO Dow was BOG with TDK next so in a normal world there would be a case for both of them to come in but in the Carlton universe it's highly unlikely. Well Dow getting a game anyway

Re: AFL Rd 10 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - kruddler - 05-21-2023

(05-21-2023, 10:16 AM)rocky link Wrote:IMO Dow was BOG with TDK next so in a normal world there would be a case for both of them to come in but in the Carlton universe it's highly unlikely. Well Dow getting a game anyway
I thought Kemp deserves a promotion as much as anyone from what i saw today.
Was probably harsh not to be playing already TBH.

Might be time to give Ed a rest. Dow can come in for him....or at least as the sub.

Re: AFL Rd 10 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - Gointocarlton - 05-21-2023

(05-21-2023, 09:38 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:marc Murphy has them both covered.
5 Coaches, same as Ed.

Re: AFL Rd 10 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood - ElwoodBlues1 - 05-21-2023

(05-21-2023, 10:18 AM)kruddler link Wrote:I thought Kemp deserves a promotion as much as anyone from what i saw today.
Was probably harsh not to be playing already TBH.

Might be time to give Ed a rest. Dow can come in for him....or at least as the sub.
Fully agree and have alluded to this on the other thread...the treatment of Dow is bizarre when we need pace and run, he will make mistakes but I want some burst and flair away from packs and Id drop George who looks like he is carrying an injury or some off field problem.