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Re: AFL Rd 5 2022 Post Game Carlton vs Port Adelaide - capcom - 04-18-2022
(04-18-2022, 03:59 AM)LP link Wrote:Do modern AFL players not have the basic skill / knowledge of kicking the footy with the lacing down when the set shot is inside 30 - 35m range? You obviously cannot kick it as far, but making contact with the lace side means it certainly won't slide off the boot, and you are forced to kick through the footy just to get it to 40m!.
Never once kicked a Sherrin that way. Laces out always for me
Re: AFL Rd 5 2022 Post Game Carlton vs Port Adelaide - LP - 04-18-2022
(04-18-2022, 04:24 AM)capcom date Wrote:Never once kicked a Sherrin that way. Laces out always for meWas a basic skill years ago, taught to me as a junior by Lethal.
Re: AFL Rd 5 2022 Post Game Carlton vs Port Adelaide - DJC - 04-18-2022
(04-18-2022, 03:59 AM)LP link Wrote:Yesterday was hot, the footy gets greasy, probably even more slippery than when it's raining. We missed several set shots at goal from 30m out, and each time the ball seemed to slide off the foot.
Do modern AFL players not have the basic skill / knowledge of kicking the footy with the lacing down when the set shot is inside 30 - 35m range? You obviously cannot kick it as far, but making contact with the lace side means it certainly won't slide off the boot, and you are forced to kick through the footy just to get it to 40m!.
Maybe it hurts their little tootsies too much!
I was taught to do that only when it was bucketing down and the footy was a slippery as a greased pig. It certainly wasn't a thing during my brief career in the sticky conditions of the QAFL. I probably kicked the ball that way four or five times in my life
Of course, we had to make do with one footy rather than the bag of footies at each end of the ground now.
Re: AFL Rd 5 2022 Post Game Carlton vs Port Adelaide - ElwoodBlues1 - 04-18-2022
(04-18-2022, 01:52 AM)laj link Wrote:We are destroying sides in the first half of games with our brutal game style. Only a matter if time before our aerobic fitness improves for us to carry it over to the 2nd half. 3 games, plus the NAB game against Melbourne we have run out to huge leads only to struggle in the 2nd half, but the fact we can run out to such leads is a massive sign. Just need the rest to come together.Fitness is one angle but we also seem to go cold on contesting and chasing too, I was at the game and when Powell Pepper decided to get involved after half time a few of our blokes reverted to short steps and one arm tackles when PP went hard at the ball and were waiting for the next bloke to do the hard stuff. Port started to win around the contests and thats where we got into trouble IMHO.
Re: AFL Rd 5 2022 Post Game Carlton vs Port Adelaide - tonyo - 04-18-2022
Just watching the second half again, put this in your review, Vossy
* why are so many guys slowly jogging while the ball is about to come into the area? Get on your bike and find a contest. Far too many uncontested marks. We let opposition teams ping-pong down the wing with little thought of manning up. I know some refer to it as zone defense - that's great on a basketball court, but on a footy field, it lets the opposition own the ball and squeeze us out of the contest.
* provide options when we are coming out of our defence - have a look at the replays of our kick ins, absolutely no movement, so the opposition know it is simply going to be the bail-out kick to the half back flank or a 15m deep into a pocket. So predictable, little wonder we can't get it out of there.
* forwards - stay in front of your man for a centre bounce! Kicks coming out of the middle are often scrambled. Most of the half-kicks we had out of the middle were either marked by Port half-backs or easily cleaned up because they were there first.
* provide a contest in the air - if you are near a marking contest, get involved! At least 6 times in the second half, a Port defender took an uncontested mark, with adjacent Blues players looking around wondering who was supposed to provide the contest. I think we need another mid-size forward who can provide decent aerial competition.
* never allow both Charlie and Harry to be off the ground at the same time - our forward line becomes virtually useless, the ball gets trapped up the other end, and we can't do the interchanges.
* when you don't have the ball, you work twice as hard to get it back. Our chasing is absolutely pedestrian.
I know we have won 4 games, but the sides we have beaten currently sit 9th, 10th, 11th and 18th, and we lost to 12th. Heaven help us when we are up against the top half of the ladder.
Re: AFL Rd 5 2022 Post Game Carlton vs Port Adelaide - DJC - 04-18-2022
(04-18-2022, 05:50 AM)tonyo link Wrote:I know we have won 4 games, but the sides we have beaten currently sit 9th, 10th, 11th and 18th, and we lost to 12th. Heaven help us when we are up against the top half of the ladder.
You do realise that Hawthorn, the Bulldogs and Richmond sit 9th, 10th and 11th BECAUSE we beat them?
Re: AFL Rd 5 2022 Post Game Carlton vs Port Adelaide - Mav - 04-18-2022
And the Hawks will end up in the 8 if they beat Geelong. Apart from Port, we haven't played any of the teams at the bottom of the ladder (if we split the ladder into thirds).
Re: AFL Rd 5 2022 Post Game Carlton vs Port Adelaide - laj - 04-18-2022
(04-18-2022, 03:48 AM)capcom link Wrote:That was your label .... not mine.
It was someone else's label which I replied to as part of the "convo" as you did.
Re: AFL Rd 5 2022 Post Game Carlton vs Port Adelaide - DJC - 04-18-2022
(04-18-2022, 05:40 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Fitness is one angle but we also seem to go cold on contesting and chasing too, I was at the game and when Powell Pepper decided to get involved after half time a few of our blokes reverted to short steps and one arm tackles when PP went hard at the ball and were waiting for the next bloke to do the hard stuff. Port started to win around the contests and thats where we got into trouble IMHO.
I must have been at a different game
Powell-Pepper played mostly as a forward and had a couple of turns in the ruck (where the umpires let him get away with tactics that SOS was penalised for). He used his strength quite well as a forward and was a difficult match up for our smaller defenders. Weitering had him for a while and that enabled Finlayson, Georgiades and Marshall to cause problems for Parks and our smaller defenders, although Parks is a much improved player and generally defended well. The idea that our blokes put in short steps because of Powell-Pepper is fanciful.
I think Vossy summed it up really well:
"The last five or six minutes of that game were extremely intense. If we lost some intensity around the ball, we somehow found it in that last five or six minutes.
It’s fair to say that we’re in that position right now where we have to learn how to win — and win properly. We’re still in that stage."
The first half was outstanding, champagne footy ... but the last six minutes produced some of the best footy our club has played for a long time. As Vossy said, we have to learn how to win properly and that means undoing the learnings of the last decade where losing intensity and folding under pressure was the norm.
Re: AFL Rd 5 2022 Post Game Carlton vs Port Adelaide - 31Tommys_barber - 04-18-2022
(04-18-2022, 01:49 AM)laj link Wrote:I saw our Test Cricket Captain out of the side for 6 years with constant injuries. You just never know.Now has a career in photography!?