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Re: Post Game Passion; AFL Rd 19: Carlton vs North Melbourne - jeza - 07-24-2021
As awful as that was i find it hard to be too hard on the team today. North aren't a wooden spoon team right now and we had way too many injuries and then we lost Harry.
Jack in the ruck, Owies / Eddie as the long marking target... its not sustainable.
No team in the comp can cover 15 or 16 injuries. The competition is too close.
Re: Post Game Passion; AFL Rd 19: Carlton vs North Melbourne - ElwoodBlues1 - 07-24-2021
(07-24-2021, 09:27 AM)PaulP link Wrote:We were behind the 8 ball to begin with. The outs and reshuffle had a domino effect. Cripps forward robs us of our best contested ball player, giving their mids an immediate advantage - him playing forward results in different leading patterns, running patterns etc. for the mids. Weitering and Walsh had their quietest / worst games in ages. Silvagni / TDK v Goldy was a match made in hell. The back 6, indeed the whole team looked confused, especially after half time.I think the way we lost was the issue and attitude from the players. We lacked resources in terms of talls but that doesn't excuse work rate, spectating, non chasing and non tackling.
I realise some will see all this as p1ss weak excuses, but pretty much every team will put in a shocker at least once per season, and this was ours.
We had finals to play for, Eds 200th and a coaches career but that wasn't enough to motivate enough players to dig deep and try so losing imo wasn't the issue it was more how we lost...
Re: Post Game Passion; AFL Rd 19: Carlton vs North Melbourne - laj - 07-24-2021
(07-24-2021, 09:35 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:I think the way we lost was the issue and attitude from the players. We lacked resources in terms of talls but that doesn't excuse work rate, spectating, non chasing and non tackling.
We had finals to play for, Eds 200th and a coaches career but that wasn't enough to motivate enough players to dig deep and try so losing imo wasn't the issue it was more how we lost...
So disappointing to lose like we did. We had so much to play for. Unless we fix that culture it won't matter whether we change the coach or not. The issues will be the same as will the results.
Re: Post Game Passion; AFL Rd 19: Carlton vs North Melbourne - shawny - 07-24-2021
(07-24-2021, 09:26 AM)crashlander link Wrote:Indeed. It is about time we lifted against the mob, instead of the opposite. They have owned us for too long, last year's game not withstanding.
I am sick and tired of the roadkill making idiots out of us.
We have been road kill mate for the last 6 years.
All talk no action just excuses.
Re: Post Game Passion; AFL Rd 19: Carlton vs North Melbourne - flyboy77 - 07-24-2021
Q3 was 7.2 to 0.4.
Embarrassing.
Re: Post Game Passion; AFL Rd 19: Carlton vs North Melbourne - PaulP - 07-24-2021
(07-24-2021, 09:35 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:I think the way we lost was the issue and attitude from the players. We lacked resources in terms of talls but that doesn't excuse work rate, spectating, non chasing and non tackling.
We had finals to play for, Eds 200th and a coaches career but that wasn't enough to motivate enough players to dig deep and try so losing imo wasn't the issue it was more how we lost...
If this theory is true (I don't agree with it myself, but anyway.....), then sacking a coach plays right into their hands, because instead of being made accountable, they are handed a scapegoat on a platter. And if that happens, you need to look at who allows that to happen, and who allows that culture to fester and take hold. And that, my dear Brother Elwood, leads to either the Board, or Executive, or both.
Re: Post Game Passion; AFL Rd 19: Carlton vs North Melbourne - ElwoodBlues1 - 07-24-2021
(07-24-2021, 10:12 AM)PaulP link Wrote:If this theory is true (I don't agree with it myself, but anyway.....), then sacking a coach plays right into their hands, because instead of being made accountable, they are handed a scapegoat on a platter. And if that happens, you need to look at who allows that to happen, and who allows that culture to fester and take hold. And that, my dear Brother Elwood, leads to either the Board, or Executive, or both.Paul, I think most can cop losing when you are down on numbers with so many injuries but we had too many players not giving effort and that is what drives supporters more insane than losing 4 points.
I have held the belief the Review is more of a theatrical exercise of the CEO's doing and that Teague needs a miracle to survive and that may come down to who is available and who wants the job. IMHO he survives if the likes of Clarko, Lyon or maybe even Hardwick say No and there are no other big name options. Losing to Nth in the manner we did just adds another bullet to a remaining empty chamber for him to fire.
Very disappointed for Teague after today, he deserves a better effort than what he got even with all our injuries..
Re: Post Game Passion; AFL Rd 19: Carlton vs North Melbourne - Lods - 07-24-2021
There was one bright note on the day...Stocker's underpants. :o
Re: Post Game Passion; AFL Rd 19: Carlton vs North Melbourne - ElwoodBlues1 - 07-24-2021
(07-24-2021, 10:43 AM)Lods link Wrote:There was one bright note on the day...Stocker's underpants. :oYou would want to be a tough hombre to get away with wearing those colourful undies.
Re: Post Game Passion; AFL Rd 19: Carlton vs North Melbourne - capcom - 07-24-2021
(07-24-2021, 10:25 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Paul, I think most can cop losing when you are down on numbers with so many injuries but we had too many players not giving effort and that is what drives supporters more insane than losing 4 points.
Right on point EB ...