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Re: AFLW 2021 trade and draft period - DRAFT NIGHT - crashlander - 07-27-2021
Round 2:
19. North Melbourne - Tara Slender - Bendigo Pioneers
20. Adelaide - Brooke Tonon - Glenelg
21. West Coast - Courtney Rowley - Peel Thunder
22. Western Bulldogs - Amanda Ling - Oakleigh Chargers
23. Carlton - Brooke Vickers - Oakleigh Chargers
24. West Coast - Beth Schilling - Peel Thunder
25. Western Bulldogs - Aurora Smith - Murray Bushrangers
26. Carlton - Imogen Milford - Casey Demons
27. Western Bulldogs - Elizabeth Snell - Bendigo Pioneers
28. North Melbourne - Kimberley Rennie - N/A
29. Collingwood - Eliza James - Oakleigh Chargers
30. Gold Coast - Giselle Davies - Bond University
31. Fremantle - Dana East - Swan Districts
32. Collingwood - Eloise Chaston - Eastern Ranges
33. Collingwood - Imogen Barnett - Collingwood
34. Adelaide - Abbie Ballard - West Adelaide
35. Brisbane - Bella Smith - Maroochydore
Re: AFLW 2021 trade and draft period - DRAFT NIGHT - kruddler - 07-27-2021
FWIW, Our pick 26 was Imogen Milford, the tall forward (179) and is currently 21, (22 in december).
Re: AFLW 2021 trade and draft period - DRAFT NIGHT - crashlander - 07-27-2021
We pass with our last pick.
Re: AFLW 2021 trade and draft period - DRAFT NIGHT - kruddler - 07-27-2021
We have passed with our last pick.
The way we traded picks, i pointed out it was very unlikely we were ever going to use it. It made no sense.
However, the way we've done things, 'making no sense' is relatively common.
Thankfully, we used logic in this instance.
THis should allow us to take one of the best players who went undrafted (even interstaters if they are keen) and gives us more time to work through who is available.
Still think we should look at Cuningham for a year.
Re: AFLW 2021 trade and draft period - DRAFT NIGHT - Baggers - 07-27-2021
(07-27-2021, 10:07 AM)kruddler link Wrote:We have passed with our last pick.
The way we traded picks, i pointed out it was very unlikely we were ever going to use it. It made no sense.
However, the way we've done things, 'making no sense' is relatively common.
Thankfully, we used logic in this instance.
THis should allow us to take one of the best players who went undrafted (even interstaters if they are keen) and gives us more time to work through who is available.
Still think we should look at Cuningham for a year.
Not having anywhere your knowledge on the gals, Mr K., how do you think we went re the four young women we chose?
Re: AFLW 2021 trade and draft period - DRAFT NIGHT - kruddler - 07-28-2021
(07-27-2021, 11:13 PM)Baggers link Wrote:Not having anywhere your knowledge on the gals, Mr K., how do you think we went re the four young women we chose?Full disclosure, I don't know much about the girls apart from what I've read and highlights ive seen.
Having said that, I know what an aflw player looks like and how they compare. The way they run, handle the ball, kick and all that.
I also know what type of players we need.
Best I can tell, the 2 don't line up.
We have had at least 2 AA defenders and another couple that would be pretty close. We also have another handful of girls who can cover for injuries. We do not need any more defenders. We recruited 2.
Now maybe Annie Lee is the best defender and/or best player available at our first pick.....fair enough. Some you can't pass on.
But why take another.....especially one wh can't kick?
So maybe we move one of our new defenders to the midfield....but why not recruit pure midfielders?? Some who don't have a horrible kicking action. These girls look adequate for the first season of aflw....but we are so far advanced of that now that they don't look up to scratch. They must have some elite ability I havnt seen yet because otherwise I don't get it.
I like Imogen Milford.
Fills a need. Might lack consistency, but with a bit of luck she can slot straight into the side. Doesn't have to be the main target, leave that to Vescio and Stevens. Harris replacement.
Personally I wouldve liked 3 mids, 1 forward and a ruck
We got 2 defenders, 1 mid and a forward.....with 1 spot still available.
Id give them a 4 out of 10 for our draft haul.
I think the media gave us 2.5 out of 10 for our trade period.
Re: AFLW 2021 trade and draft period - DRAFT NIGHT - ianh - 07-28-2021
(07-28-2021, 12:27 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Full disclosure, I don't know much about the girls apart from what I've read and highlights ive seen.I don't claim any level of expertise or knowledge of the draft pool, albeit I follow the female leagues as best I can but with involvement a Div 3 local ladies team, following the AFLW and VFLW to a lesser extent, trying to catch the elite level youth girls can be a bit of a challenge. That said I will be so bold as to express some personal views which run counter to the above. First I agree wholeheartedly with Krud's views of our needs, indeed Munro's pre draft comments seemed to reflect the same, subject to an overarching "best available" mantra which is fair enough especially early. Accordingly my wish list would have been 3 mids, a tall forward and a ruck preferably capable of at least resting forward. First up we go a classy intercept defender who also uses the ball well out of defence - might not be needs related but can live with that on a best available basis if that is the club's jugment. She is young and gets to learn from the best and eventually take over from them. Fair enough, but not sure if she improves the team for next year. Second we stretch for a brilliantly athletic mid who Krud it appears - and many others - would say has kicking issues. I agree her technique looks crap but in my viewings, and I may have missed her horror days for all I know, she can and does kick the ball well when afforded time and space, it is when she is under pressure that Sherar tends to kick poorly. More a cade of kicking consistency than being a poor kick per se. That can be worked on and if it is eradicated then we have good one. But I get why there are concerns and I acknowledge the inherent big "if". Next Vernon. This is the one where I starkly disagree with Krud. First she is not a defender she is a true utility albeit palying mainly down back but also serious wing time and doing it well. Second I cannot have it that she is a poor kick. Again maybe I missed her bad days but on my viewings to the contrary disposal is one of her strong suits. Munro and the club certainly see it that way. I like the pick. Finally we get our KF and a good pick up in Milford. Still young and improving but with some experience and runs on the board, ready to slot in day 1 and this is a player who may well improve the team from the get go. That is the concern I have with our selections, maybe we are looking more to the future, but who improves the team for 2022?
Having said that, I know what an aflw player looks like and how they compare. The way they run, handle the ball, kick and all that.
I also know what type of players we need.
Best I can tell, the 2 don't line up.
We have had at least 2 AA defenders and another couple that would be pretty close. We also have another handful of girls who can cover for injuries. We do not need any more defenders. We recruited 2.
Now maybe Annie Lee is the best defender and/or best player available at our first pick.....fair enough. Some you can't pass on.
But why take another.....especially one wh can't kick?
So maybe we move one of our new defenders to the midfield....but why not recruit pure midfielders?? Some who don't have a horrible kicking action. These girls look adequate for the first season of aflw....but we are so far advanced of that now that they don't look up to scratch. They must have some elite ability I havnt seen yet because otherwise I don't get it.
I like Imogen Milford.
Fills a need. Might lack consistency, but with a bit of luck she can slot straight into the side. Doesn't have to be the main target, leave that to Vescio and Stevens. Harris replacement.
Personally I wouldve liked 3 mids, 1 forward and a ruck
We got 2 defenders, 1 mid and a forward.....with 1 spot still available.
Id give them a 4 out of 10 for our draft haul.
I think the media gave us 2.5 out of 10 for our trade period.
The other area where I will deign to disgree with Krud is in relation to our passing on the last pick. I understand the point about waiting and seeing who produces what in the rest of the season before commiting to our last choice and probably would generally agree with it if either the cupboard was bare or stocked with options all on much the same level. But let's suppose you decided to go panning for gold and on your way to the river you trip over something half buried on the path. You look to see what tripped you up and low and behold it's a massive gold nugget. Now I ask you, do you leave it there and carry on down to the river?
That gold nugget's name is Talia Gillard and I am a massive fan. Genuinely tall (190cm) ruck that I think could be anything. I'd have taken her at the pointy end of the draft and couldn't believe she was still around when our last pick came up. To have grabbed her would have made our draft to my mind and I am gutted we let her slip to the Dees a couple of picks later. Again, obviously my view of her talents was not shared by anyone with the power to call (except maybe Melbourne who didn't come into the draft until the pick before and for all we know might have rated her atthe pointy end and been delighted she was there). Clearly most of the experts didn't rate her near where I do and maybe they are right. But I'd have broken my neck to grab her.
Anyway, what is is what is and what is not is what is not as Parmenides liked to say and that is where the chips have fallen. I am not dissppointed with our selections bar passing on Gillard but the question remains who makes us better in 2022? And let's face it you need substantial improvement just to keep pace with the overall standard improving let alone to climb the ladder.
Re: AFLW 2021 trade and draft period - DRAFT NIGHT - Baggers - 07-28-2021
Both informative, terrific reads. Tks Mr K, tks IH.
Re: AFLW 2021 trade and draft period - DRAFT NIGHT - Professer E - 07-28-2021
Don't understand why Craven slipped out of the top five
Re: AFLW 2021 trade and draft period - DRAFT NIGHT - crashlander - 07-29-2021
We signed free agent from Sturt in SA today: a ruck who is mates with Kerryn Harrington: Jessica Good
183 cm tall and a little older.
There is our ruck.
Imogen Milford, Paige Trudgeon and Serena Gobbs can fight it out for the marking key forward spot.
The others to replace Chloe Dalton, I guess.
No guarantee that Mimi Hill will be right to play for the season either.
I am a little happier than I was on Draft Night. It does look like we've addressed some of our areas of weakness from the 2021 season. Have we done enough? Have we chosen correctly? Far too early to tell. Our AFLW recruiting has generally been pretty good, but even a good bunch can make disastrous errors.