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Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2020 Rd 12: Carlton vs Fremantle - ElwoodBlues1 - 08-14-2020
(08-14-2020, 07:21 AM)kruddler link Wrote:How many 33yo's are playing better than him?Boak, Selwood and Pendlebury all around 32...our own Simpson ,but thats not the issue, its what is Murphy providing us and is he keeping a younger player with more upside out of the team or is he providing leadership and winning his position each week?
IMO Murphy and Simpson need to retire along with Kreuzer and should sit the remaining games out and then play the last vs Brisbane..
Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2020 Rd 12: Carlton vs Fremantle - kruddler - 08-14-2020
(08-14-2020, 07:30 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Boak, Selwood and Pendlebury all around 32...our own Simpson ,but thats not the issue, its what is Murphy providing us and is he keeping a younger player with more upside out of the team or is he providing leadership and winning his position each week?32 is not 33.
IMO Murphy and Simpson need to retire along with Kreuzer and should sit the remaining games out and then play the last vs Brisbane..
For a 33 year old, he is performing better than most of our 23yo's.
Last time we force-retired some of the clubs eldest players it led to our first ever wooden spoon.
Lets not make the same mistake again thanks.
Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2020 Rd 12: Carlton vs Fremantle - kruddler - 08-14-2020
Honey will be making his debut.
Full teams not out yet.
Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2020 Rd 12: Carlton vs Fremantle - ElwoodBlues1 - 08-14-2020
(08-14-2020, 07:35 AM)kruddler link Wrote:32 is not 33.I'll give you Boak a full year younger but the other two are 6 months difference only and have also played more games which equates to over a season so they would be more worn given the extra work.
For a 33 year old, he is performing better than most of our 23yo's.
Last time we force-retired some of the clubs eldest players it led to our first ever wooden spoon.
Lets not make the same mistake again thanks.
You didnt answer my question on what Murphy is providing us vs the cost of keeping a younger player out of the team and sacrificing development? We are still two seasons off playing decent winning finals IMO why keep old tired legs?
Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2020 Rd 12: Carlton vs Fremantle - crashlander - 08-14-2020
(08-14-2020, 07:45 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Honey will be making his debut.I think the lad deserves a go. he has been good in the 2's.
Full teams not out yet.
Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2020 Rd 12: Carlton vs Fremantle - kruddler - 08-14-2020
(08-14-2020, 07:47 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:I'll give you Boak a full year younger but the other two are 6 months difference only and have also played more games which equates to over a season so they would be more worn given the extra work.
You didnt answer my question on what Murphy is providing us vs the cost of keeping a younger player out of the team and sacrificing development? We are still two seasons off playing decent winning finals IMO why keep old tired legs?
Who is he keeping out? The blokes that Bolton was playing? How was that working out for us?
Perhaps what Murphy, and other elder players, offer the team more than what your average supporter realises.
Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2020 Rd 12: Carlton vs Fremantle - ElwoodBlues1 - 08-14-2020
(08-14-2020, 08:00 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Who is he keeping out? The blokes that Bolton was playing? How was that working out for us?If thats true then our depth is very very average and we have more problems than we realize as none of those players will be in our next major finals assault..
Perhaps what Murphy, and other elder players, offer the team more than what your average supporter realises.
Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2020 Rd 12: Carlton vs Fremantle - laj - 08-14-2020
(08-14-2020, 08:16 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:If thats true then our depth is very very average and we have more problems than we realize as none of those players will be in our next major finals assault..Michael Walters
IN
Harry McKay,
Josh Honey
Travis Colyer (Injured)
OUT
Jack Martin (Injured),
Marc Pittonet (Injured)
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NEW
Josh Honey
Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2020 Rd 12: Carlton vs Fremantle - laj - 08-14-2020
(08-14-2020, 07:30 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Boak, Selwood and Pendlebury all around 32...our own Simpson ,but thats not the issue, its what is Murphy providing us and is he keeping a younger player with more upside out of the team or is he providing leadership and winning his position each week?
IMO Murphy and Simpson need to retire along with Kreuzer and should sit the remaining games out and then play the last vs Brisbane..
Need to keep playing our best side. Win tomorrow and we're just a game out of the 8. Let's others earn their spots now.
Re: Pre game postulations: AFL 2020 Rd 12: Carlton vs Fremantle - kruddler - 08-14-2020
(08-14-2020, 08:16 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:If thats true then our depth is very very average and we have more problems than we realize as none of those players will be in our next major finals assault..Well you tell me. You said Murphy is keeping someone out of the side. Who?
Who will be better in the 22 than Murphy?
As for our depth....
McKay
Curnow
McGovern
J. Silvagni
Kreuzer
N. Newman
Cuningham
All unavailable for selection last match. All would be picked by most to be in our best 22.
On top of that, fringe players like Marchbank and Dow are coming back from injury and have not been deemed match fit yet. Neither has Kemp who we recruited injured.
Along with the 22 that played last week. That is 32 players from our list. There is only a 46 players on our list, so how many of the 14 players not in either list are good enough to keep Murphy out of the side?
We've given at least 1 game to
Moore
Lang
Philp
None of them are the answer.
Honey gets a game this week.
Who is left?
Macreadie
Polson
Stocker
Obrien
Owies
Goddard
Ramsay
Phillips
Odwyer
B. Silvagni
Which of those 10 offers the side more than Murphy?
Name any of them....i dare ya.