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Re: Post Game Passion AFL Rd 10: Carlton vs St Kilda - kruddler - 05-26-2019
(05-26-2019, 10:26 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:D Teague, the hot shot fwd coach we got from Adelaide the Gov so desperately wanted to work with. Some on here suggest we should sack Bolton and make this bloke the Coach. Our fwd line has never looked more shambolic.
Perhaps he is a better people manager than strategist?
Re: Post Game Passion AFL Rd 10: Carlton vs St Kilda - JonDorotich - 05-26-2019
Was at the game and it felt like watching the under 5s - basically a rolling scrimmage with no system or structure. Painful to watch.
Couldnt really have picked out any stand out players but Casboult stood out, which is great for him, but also an indictment on the club.
Plowman has to go.
Dow makes lots of mistakes but I’d definitely persist.
Kennedy & Silvagni painfully slow.
Nothing in the 2s.
Re: Post Game Passion AFL Rd 10: Carlton vs St Kilda - laj - 05-26-2019
(05-26-2019, 10:17 AM)flyboy77 link Wrote:Not excusing the poor skills, the deplorable decision making, the lack of system or structure and the lack of effort at times BUT a few extra wise heads would make the world of difference.
Thought Weiters had a real shocker today... and our 3 big forwards, other than a few cameos from Charlie were terrible....the forward 50 was so congested....more than just slow ball movement (ps i need to watch the replay).
Your 3 big forward at at the total mercy of the $hit up the field. No predictability. They'd have no idea what is coming in at any time so how do they set.
Where did we kick it today? So often to JSOS covered by 3 defenders. No wonder they are lost. I don't put alot of blame there.
Clangers today 66, scoreboard 55.
Re: Post Game Passion AFL Rd 10: Carlton vs St Kilda - JonHenry - 05-26-2019
(05-26-2019, 10:26 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:D Teague, the hot shot fwd coach we got from Adelaide the Gov so desperately wanted to work with. Some on here suggest we should sack Bolton and make this bloke the Coach. Our fwd line has never looked more shambolic.
Ummm have you watched how the ball comes in?
Do you honestly think any forward line would perform?
Re: Post Game Passion AFL Rd 10: Carlton vs St Kilda - Gointocarlton - 05-26-2019
(05-26-2019, 10:38 AM)laj link Wrote:He did a great job at other clubs and was something outstanding as coach of the Northern Bullants taking one ordinary team to consecutive GFs. If he was outstanding at other clubs, so much so that McGovern came her just to work with him, why is he suddenly no good here? I'll take McGovern's word before that of a poster otherwise why the F would you want to come here. Assistants are at the mercy of the head coach. A forward coach is at the complete mercy of the crap up the field. You have no hope with that $hit. Wouldn't matter who did that job.Ask yourself who is our fwd coach.
If he was great at other clubs, why is he struggling here. Ask yourself that. Alot probably thought Ratten was a crap assistant under Pagan............until he got the top job.
Re: Post Game Passion AFL Rd 10: Carlton vs St Kilda - Gointocarlton - 05-26-2019
(05-26-2019, 10:42 AM)JonHenry link Wrote:Ummm have you watched how the ball comes in?Ummm did you see the positioning of the fwds today?
Do you honestly think any forward line would perform?
Re: Post Game Passion AFL Rd 10: Carlton vs St Kilda - JonHenry - 05-26-2019
(05-26-2019, 10:40 AM)JonDorotich link Wrote:Was at the game and it felt like watching the under 5s - basically a rolling scrimmage with no system or structure. Painful to watch.
Couldnt really have picked out any stand out players but Casboult stood out, which is great for him, but also an indictment on the club.
Plowman has to go.
Dow makes lots of mistakes but I’d definitely persist.
Kennedy & Silvagni painfully slow.
Nothing in the 2s.
They were talking up the return of Plowman before the game.
Makes bad decisions and fumbles a lot.
Other than that he’s ok
Re: Post Game Passion AFL Rd 10: Carlton vs St Kilda - JonHenry - 05-26-2019
(05-26-2019, 10:44 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Ummm did you see the positioning of the fwds today?
Yeah I did.
The whole team is a mess, and you want to single out the forwards.
Early in the game they were fine.
Then we didn’t win any footy.
Conversion rate for forward entries was ok for most of the first half.
Are they perfect, no, but ffs it’s like trying to win an F1 race with a commodore
Re: Post Game Passion AFL Rd 10: Carlton vs St Kilda - flyboy77 - 05-26-2019
(05-26-2019, 10:44 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:Ummm did you see the positioning of the fwds today?
I don't give a toss whether it's the players or the coach's fault...it's unacceptable for all these blokes - players and coaches - to dish that rubbish up at this level.
ps I'm talking about the entire 22, not just the 3 key forwards.
Re: pg - Woodstock - 05-26-2019
(05-26-2019, 07:42 AM)flyboy77 link Wrote:and SPS.
And Weitering - he's way off today.
He doesn’t cope well with mid sized physical, quick opposition. Why the coach didn’t say, I don’t know, swap him with McGovern for a spell to see what would happen? McGovern was doing two shakes of f-all anyway. At least Weitering can take a mark and force the Saints to re-asses? Who knows. I’m just sick of it. Maybe Andy Maher was right about the word on the street that Bolton is a stubborn guy. I think inept is more apt.
MLG. Step up to the Plate. Call for an independent review, right now. State that all positions are under Review. Ideally, I’d love Bolton to be sacked now, to give some assistant 12 games to try his luck and also prove to would be coaches like Longmire, Roos, Scott that we can play. There is no point waiting any longer for Bolton to prove that he cannot get 4 quarters of effort out of a team and have them working as a unit, with a clear system. Ideally Roos - until Clarkson’s contract is up in 3 years and then we nab him. Bolton cannot seem to make logical decisions, promptly, on game day and plays his favourites. Please just walk the plank. Even if we beat Essendon next week, it just feels to me like holding back the inevitable at this point. At this point we are doing more damage to the brand than we are working on building success.