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Re: 2018 Rd 18: Pre Game Passion: Carlton vs Gold Coast - Lods - 07-27-2018
I feel a bit sorry for Levi.
He's probably had the least effective midfield to work with in our recent history.
He was for a time our only tall target.
Recognising this he was often playing against two guys with a ball landing on his head.
We lacked the small forwards to benefit from his contested work.
Yes, his kicking was/is woeful. Deflating sometimes....I just feel he would have been a lot more effective with more support.
Re: 2018 Rd 18: Pre Game Passion: Carlton vs Gold Coast - ElwoodBlues1 - 07-27-2018
(07-27-2018, 01:18 AM)Lods link Wrote:I feel a bit sorry for Levi.
He's probably had the least effective midfield to work with in our recent history.
He was for a time our only tall target.
Recognising this he was often playing against two guys with a ball landing on his head.
We lacked the small forwards to benefit from his contested work.
Yes, his kicking was/is woeful. Deflating sometimes....I just feel he would have been a lot more effective with more support.
Think he will get picked up probably by a team who miss on Lynch or maybe even GC then we will see how effective he is with a better team....probably kick a bag when he plays
us and continue the tradition of ex players burning us....
Re: 2018 Rd 18: Pre Game Passion: Carlton vs Gold Coast - bratblue - 07-27-2018
(07-26-2018, 11:38 AM)laj link Wrote:We have a reasonably good team on paper. Unfortunately, the game is played on grass...lol.
They could do a Croswell on grass.
Re: 2018 Rd 18: Pre Game Passion: Carlton vs Gold Coast - laj - 07-27-2018
(07-26-2018, 10:46 PM)deags link Wrote:That type of guy can give you a sense of false hope. While he is wearing our colours I will support him every inch, but I think he has been a weight on the team and we would have been better off cutting him loose a while ago, and looking for a proper mentor for our young forwards.
There wasn't many around for that and if there was they were unlikely to come to us. To kick 34 goals last year as essentially a 2nd ruck that's a decent output for a guy from deep in the rookie draft in a club that struggles badly to kick a goal. Player of limited ability who managed to fill a big hole reasonably decently given there was no-one else. Don't think it was ever a plan for him to be our no.1 forward. Might've been more dangerous as no.2 forward in a better side. There was never going to be a big breakout game as he wasn't that good. Probably made the most out of limited ability.
Re: 2018 Rd 18: Pre Game Passion: Carlton vs Gold Coast - deags - 07-27-2018
I agree with most of that, but still think his "almost" ability kept him on the list longer than he should have been.
I don't begrudge him anything. He seems like a really likable guy. But sometimes not changing things up hurts you, and I think it did for us.
And for what it's worth, I think he is the sort of player who may do much better as second forward, but if he is number one, especially in a side that seems to have a "kick to number one at all cost" mentality, he is causing more problems, through no fault of his own (other than his kicking).
Re: 2018 Rd 18: Pre Game Passion: Carlton vs Gold Coast - DJC - 07-27-2018
(07-27-2018, 02:48 AM)laj link Wrote:There wasn't many around for that and if there was they were unlikely to come to us. To kick 34 goals last year as essentially a 2nd ruck that's a decent output for a guy from deep in the rookie draft in a club that struggles badly to kick a goal. Player of limited ability who managed to fill a big hole reasonably decently given there was no-one else. Don't think it was ever a plan for him to be our no.1 forward. Might've been more dangerous as no.2 forward in a better side. There was never going to be a big breakout game as he wasn't that good. Probably made the most out of limited ability.
That's a pretty accurate summary and I reckon Levi has had an outstanding career given his limited ability.
While you may be right about him being a better player in a better side, I think that the fact that he has managed 100 games is in no small part due to our poor list management ... and the scarcity of quality key forwards.
Levi and Vickery are chalk and cheese; the latter was a high draft pick with the ability and attributes to be a dominant ruck/forward but who lacked the necessary application.
Re: 2018 Rd 18: Pre Game Passion: Carlton vs Gold Coast - cookie2 - 07-27-2018
The outcome was the same for Levi and Vickery though - both underwhelming. Call that chalk or call it cheese.
Levi may get a gig somewhere or other and that may provide him an opportunity to find some future success - personally I wish him well.
Re: 2018 Rd 18: Pre Game Passion: Carlton vs Gold Coast - WASurfer - 07-27-2018
Glad that Shaw was omitted. Woeful in his two games and looks a LONG way of AFL level. As for Levi, needs a good run at it in the VFL and see if he can take some marks and kick some goals. Still think he's worth a position on the list even if it's just as a back up ruckmen/forward. Phillips is always injured, Kruezer looks closer to the end than we'd like and other than that it's Lobbe who was only recruited as a back up back up ruckman....the cupboard looks bare otherwise.
Re: 2018 Rd 18: Pre Game Passion: Carlton vs Gold Coast - DJC - 07-27-2018
(07-27-2018, 03:24 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:The outcome was the same for Levi and Vickery though - both underwhelming. Call that chalk or call it cheese.
Levi may get a gig somewhere or other and that may provide him an opportunity to find some future success - personally I wish him well.
Isn’t Levi contracted for another year?
We need him on the list as back up, unless we trade in a better ruck/forward.
Re: 2018 Rd 18: Pre Game Passion: Carlton vs Gold Coast - cookie2 - 07-27-2018
(07-27-2018, 04:45 AM)DJC link Wrote:Isn’t Levi contracted for another year?
We need him on the list as back up, unless we trade in a better ruck/forward.
I wish him success wherever he plays next year. There's been some suggestion on here that he may be traded as part of a deal or he may see his time out with us if we can't get a better option.