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Re: 2017 Rd 10: Pre Game Palaver: Carlton vs North Melbourne - Baggers - 05-26-2017
(05-25-2017, 09:19 AM)Navy Maven link Wrote:How is Sumner even in contention?? Polson should be considered ahead of him.
Sumner's improvement from game to game has been really strong... in his last game his improvement from qtr to qtr was obvious. Polson is still searching for consistency and is not far off. They're both quick which is a bonus.
Re: 2017 Rd 10: Pre Game Palaver: Carlton vs North Melbourne - Gointocarlton - 05-26-2017
I like Sumner, always have. I hope he can get a decent crack, stay injury free and get some continuity by playing week in week out. The kid can seriously play and has some tricks.
Re: 2017 Rd 10: Pre Game Palaver: Carlton vs North Melbourne - LP - 05-26-2017
(05-26-2017, 05:38 AM)cimm1979 link Wrote:Jones hasn't played ruck for a few weeks.
He's had ruck rotations at stoppages in every game I watched in the last few weeks, only limited center bounce stuff in the last two weeks. But enough stoppage ruck to see the benefits he brings.
If he brings that level of effort, he is more than useful whether it be ten times a game or fifty!
Re: 2017 Rd 10: Pre Game Palaver: Carlton vs North Melbourne - cookie2 - 05-26-2017
Interchange =
Cunningham
Graham
Sumner
Macreadie.
Re: 2017 Rd 10: Pre Game Palaver: Carlton vs North Melbourne - pinot - 05-26-2017
(05-26-2017, 07:11 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:Interchange =
Cunningham
Graham
Sumner
Macreadie.
Cool - good luck to Sumner and Macreadie
Re: 2017 Rd 10: Pre Game Palaver: Carlton vs North Melbourne - Baggers - 05-26-2017
(05-26-2017, 06:55 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:I like Sumner, always have. I hope he can get a decent crack, stay injury free and get some continuity by playing week in week out. The kid can seriously play and has some tricks.
Agree. Had a late/slow start to the season, with another early set back during a pre season game. But his last two weeks showed glimpses of what he is capable of.
Surprised Macreadie got the nod ahead of White. Even in the summaries of each VFL players game last week according to Josh, White got wraps whereas Macreadie not so much and that's what I also saw. So now we know that blokes aren't selected on form alone... if they're young and their form is not bad they get a gig, if they're older they'll need a few BOGs to get a gig.
Re: 2017 Rd 10: Pre Game Palaver: Carlton vs North Melbourne - Gointocarlton - 05-26-2017
(05-26-2017, 07:28 AM)Baggers link Wrote:Agree. Had a late/slow start to the season, with another early set back during a pre season game. But his last two weeks showed glimpses of what he is capable of.I just love what they are doing with the side on a week to week basis. Blooding kids, settling players in their best positions, going with youth as opposed to age/experience. There is a plan and they are sticking to it. White is a terrific bloke who loves the club, plays for his team mates and gives you 100% week in week out. Is he part of the future? No. He will no longer be selected ahead of kids with talent. Macreadie has talent to burn and is part of the future so I have no problem with selections like that and I am prepared to experience the "growing pains" that go with selections like that. Pretty soon, more blokes like White will miss out to make way for the future. Its a good thing, its a very good thing.
Surprised Macreadie got the nod ahead of White. Even in the summaries of each VFL players game last week according to Josh, White got wraps whereas Macreadie not so much and that's what I also saw. So now we know that blokes aren't selected on form alone... if they're young and their form is not bad they get a gig, if they're older they'll need a few BOGs to get a gig.
Re: 2017 Rd 10: Pre Game Palaver: Carlton vs North Melbourne - laj - 05-26-2017
(05-26-2017, 03:53 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:Sandilands turned the game in Freo's favour. Kreuzer might have a good individual game when he rucks solo but it's not good for the team.
Kreuzer got it 22 times, plus 5 marks, 6 tackles, double that of Sandilands, who didn't take a mark, and between he (26 hitouts) and Levi (10) got only 6 taps less for what it's worth. I'm not sure Sandilands changed the game, his midfield did.
With those stats I'm happy for Kreuzer to do the bulk of the ruck work with relief from Casboult. It works best for us. Give me the performance around the ground any day.
Re: 2017 Rd 10: Pre Game Palaver: Carlton vs North Melbourne - laj - 05-26-2017
(05-26-2017, 04:37 AM)LP link Wrote:If Phillips is rucking Kreuzer should rotate with Cripps, they are equally good at ground level.
Phillips was better, but last weekend was the first he's actually held some marks. Prior to that he was very ordinary, I think he is dead lucky that Jones got injured! Jones has been losing the taps but winning the clearances.
It's not the 50 taps a ruckmen gets that matters, it's what the midfielders do with them that counts!
I can't believe we keep having this debate, especially given we finally cleared our list of Warnock are we saying we were better off with him than Kreuzer, no way!
I think our big problem remains Casboult, a lot of attention on Kreuzer relative to Sandilands just lets 200cm Casboult's awful game last weekend slip through the cracks. It takes a special talent to kick 2 goals and still have a negative impact! Casboult is like an illicit drug, addictive for all the wrong reasons. At 27 I'm well and truly over the "Gee, if only he could.....!", yet I just know if he leaves he'll come good!
You won't get miracles from a key forward that was pick 44 in a rookie draft. Levi frustrated giving away too many frees last week. I've seen him play better in some respects in this role, not quite taking as many marks, but he's rucking better and hitting the scoreboard more. It's allowing Kreuzer to blossom though and have his best year. We're playing both to their strengths, which is much different to last year. I'd have picked another key forward and let Levi focus on backing up Kreuzer.
Re: 2017 Rd 10: Pre Game Palaver: Carlton vs North Melbourne - madbluboy - 05-26-2017
(05-26-2017, 08:19 AM)laj link Wrote:Kreuzer got it 22 times, plus 5 marks, 6 tackles, double that of Sandilands, who didn't take a mark, and between he (26 hitouts) and Levi (10) got only 6 taps less for what it's worth. I'm not sure Sandilands changed the game, his midfield did.
With those stats I'm happy for Kreuzer to do the bulk of the ruck work with relief from Casboult. It works best for us. Give me the performance around the ground any day.
I'd rather we win.