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Re: VFL 2017: Rd 5: Northern Blues vs Casey - laj - 05-15-2017
(05-15-2017, 06:38 AM)Baggers link Wrote:Now that's a great question. Both our big forwards against the Aints failed in creating scoreboard hurt. But was it their fault? Sheesh, the aggott didn't get in there too often but when it did Meat and Weits never looked like they were going to assert any real authority. We must get more inside 50s with quality delivery... but we're playing this balancing act of blooding newbies v playing experienced bodies. It's almost winning v development. I reckon this will be the last year that the supporters will tolerate newbie excuses/honourable losses... 'put up a good fight' etc...
To try and answer your question from my humble lounge chair, IF the ball was being delivered better I think Weits would be doing better. Although I acknowledge the improvement in Meat I still reckon he's very tradeable... too soft between the lugholes. Not too many big key forwards have been successful when being so nice, as Meat seems to be.
I wouldn't consider Jaksch... too one dimensional. Yes can take a good mark and generally kicks well and can be swung down back but that catch, punch or kick only stuff went out with granny's button up boots.
McKay didn't play yesterday. Why?
Two junior key forwards, Weits & McKay or Weits & Kerr, would be a worry... especially when they're surrounded by newbies as well like SOJ, Charlie, Samo etc. Personally I'd like to see Rowe and Meat as our key forwards with Weits down back. And with the valued inclusion of ACOS down back we can now do this. Plus Weits looks like he could do with a bit of familiar territory at present. This means McKay/Kerr could come in as the third tall and being gradually blooded. White would be the logical exclusion.
Jaksch seems to get plenty of touches and hits the scoreboard. Plays well most weeks. We need to find out what he has before we decide what to do with him. He'll have more forward support than in his only game last year. As for Levi, he won't be traded. He'll either leave as a free agent or stay. Kreuzer and Casboult are a good ruck combo. Like to see Levi concentrate on back up rucking and pick and extra key forward.
Re: VFL 2017: Rd 5: Northern Blues vs Casey - jeza - 05-15-2017
(05-15-2017, 09:30 AM)maxm68 link Wrote:I agree it's time for Weitering to go back to defense... going forward hasn't worked as far as I'm concerned.
I think this week would be the perfect time to give a Kerr or a Mckay a taste of the big time... a road trip to Perth would be worth 5 Melbourne games just as an experience and to whet the appetite.
Maybe Mckay was rested before his 1st flight to Perth... that's my tip you heard it here 1st.
Weits has lost his spot down back. Nobody in their right mind would muck around with our back 6 at the moment which is the AFLs best.
He either lifts his performance or goes back to the 2s. He's not some sacred cow.
Re: VFL 2017: Rd 5: Northern Blues vs Casey - Jeffy38 - 05-15-2017
I think weiters will be rested for McKay. Just a hunch and likely to be totally wrong
Re: VFL 2017: Rd 5: Northern Blues vs Casey - maxm68 - 05-15-2017
(05-15-2017, 09:57 AM)jeza link Wrote:Weits has lost his spot down back. Nobody in their right mind would muck around with our back 6 at the moment which is the AFLs best.
He either lifts his performance or goes back to the 2s. He's not some sacred cow.
IMO - Sam Rowe and Alex Silvagni are short term options, they will not ( Put Simmo + Simon White in that category too ) play in our next flag... ( will be lucky to be playing when we are a top 8 team )
Jacob Weitering was recruited as a backman and IMO will be our Harry Taylor for the next 10 years so why are we mucking around with him as a forward.. ??
Re: VFL 2017: Rd 5: Northern Blues vs Casey - LP - 05-15-2017
(05-15-2017, 10:25 AM)maxm68 link Wrote:IMO - Sam Rowe and Alex Silvagni are short term options, they will not ( Put Simon White in that category too ) play in our next flag... ( will be lucky to be playing when we are a top 8 team )
You realise all the names you list above are under 30! :o
How long do you think it will take to climb the ladder? ???
Re: VFL 2017: Rd 5: Northern Blues vs Casey - maxm68 - 05-15-2017
(05-15-2017, 10:27 AM)LP link Wrote:You realise all the names you list above are under 30! :o
How long do you think it will take to climb the ladder? ???
I said ... I don't think they will play in our next flag... then added they would be "lucky to be still playing when we are a top 8 team "
I edited and added Simmo to the list as well.... there 4 spots we need to fill in our back six before we can win a flag.........IMO
My "guess " would be looking at top 8 in 19 or 20...... but who knows ?
Re: VFL 2017: Rd 5: Northern Blues vs Casey - pinot - 05-15-2017
Next season Weiters will be part of the staple in defence. He is doing better job forward than some of the young forwards going around like Schace and Weidemann.
This is a good learning curve for Weits as this will help him play better as a defender learning to run patterns as a forward. Potentially we will have two high class intercept marks in defence in Marchy and Weits but I would think will play in defence in 2018 after big pre season. But getting games into him as a key forward so young is doing him no harm at all in the long term
Re: VFL 2017: Rd 5: Northern Blues vs Casey - cookie2 - 05-15-2017
(05-15-2017, 09:56 AM)laj link Wrote:Jaksch seems to get plenty of touches and hits the scoreboard. Plays well most weeks. We need to find out what he has before we decide what to do with him. He'll have more forward support than in his only game last year. As for Levi, he won't be traded. He'll either leave as a free agent or stay. Kreuzer and Casboult are a good ruck combo. Like to see Levi concentrate on back up rucking and pick and extra key forward.
Agree about Jaksch. I would definitely like to see him given another try before the final decision is made.
Re: VFL 2017: Rd 5: Northern Blues vs Casey - LP - 05-15-2017
(05-15-2017, 11:09 AM)maxm68 link Wrote:My "guess " would be looking at top 8 in 19 or 20...... but who knows ?
It's a pity, I was hoping BB would work out.
There is no way he'll still be at the club in 3 or 4 years if we aren't top 8 next year.
It's probably sad but it's mostly a reality!
Re: VFL 2017: Rd 5: Northern Blues vs Casey - jeza - 05-15-2017
Doc, Marchbank, Plowman, Williamson, Byrne... then Rowe, Silvagni, White aren't young but they aren't 34 either.
You can't form the best defence in the afl then immediately pull it apart because they aren't all 18.
We need to worry about getting the mids working as well.