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Re: 2017 Rd 7: After Match Analysis: Carlton vs Collingwood - blue4life - 05-07-2017
(05-07-2017, 12:18 AM)JonHenry link Wrote:And no long term, high cost contracts to limit our trading potential.
Very strong position to be in.
We'll need to offer some decent contracts in the next few years if we want to keep all of our high quality kids.
But it's not a bad situation to be in.
Another thing we'll need to get right is deciding who we can trade out while they still have the potential tag, in the past we've kept players too long and their trade value has evaporated.
Re: 2017 Rd 7: After Match Analysis: Carlton vs Collingwood - RiverRat - 05-07-2017
(05-06-2017, 07:19 AM)pinot link Wrote:Nick Graham not getting much love only made one mistake trying to center the ball. Otherwise he was massive when the heat was on early
Excellent game from Graham and not just because it was wet.
He will probably never gain the positive yardage that Simmo does but Bolton's short kicking possession game plays right into his skill set because he has always had the ability to run hard (not necessarily fast) to create space to receive a short pass and he is also good at hitting a target with a short kick.
Has never been afraid to put his body on the line but he surprised me yesterday with how well he competed over his head when the ball was kicked (too high) to him in the forward line. If he didn't mark it, he usually managed to bring the ball to ground.
Re: 2017 Rd 7: After Match Analysis: Carlton vs Collingwood - kruddler - 05-07-2017
(05-06-2017, 02:40 PM)John Corey link Wrote:It amazes me that Simmo is not talked about in the same way that ppl speak of Fyfe, Pendlebury, Selwood etc.
Simmo is an out and out superstar. I'm too scared to think about what our club would have been like without him over the last 5yrs. What he has been able to do in this game, with his body type & the brave way he plays, is nothing short of incredible. He is the Quarterback of our team. He showed it again today. Composed at all times, organising (with Docherty) and those young kids like Williamson, Ploughman and Marchbank are gonna learn so much from him.
And that goal....with the little shimmy to fool the defender........
Yes. I do have Man Love for Simmo.
What gets me about Simmo is that he has ZERO All Australians. Yup, not a single one.
Someone like Corey Enright has 6 basically playing the same role.
http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?playerStatus1=I&tid1=10&playerStatus2=A&tid2=4&type=A&pid1=234&pid2=446&fid1=C&fid2=C
Tell me that based on those stats, one player should have 6 AA's and the other 0.
Perhaps Enright had some standout years by comparison? Lets look at his last 3 AA's and compare with Simmo the same year.
2016
http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?playerStatus1=I&tid1=10&playerStatus2=A&tid2=4&type=A&pid1=234&pid2=446&fid1=P&fopt1=2016&fid2=P&fopt2=2016
2013
http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?playerStatus1=I&tid1=10&playerStatus2=A&tid2=4&type=A&pid1=234&pid2=446&fid1=P&fopt1=2013&fid2=P&fopt2=2013
2011
http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?playerStatus1=I&tid1=10&playerStatus2=A&tid2=4&type=A&pid1=234&pid2=446&fid1=P&fopt1=2011&fid2=P&fopt2=2011
Simmo deserves a lot more credit from the footballing world.
Re: 2017 Rd 7: After Match Analysis: Carlton vs Collingwood - PaulP - 05-07-2017
I agree kruddler, but it's a simple fact of life that players in successful teams get noticed more than players with equivalent output in less successful teams. And it's not just in sport. Injustice is a very real component of the human condition.
Re: 2017 Rd 7: After Match Analysis: Carlton vs Collingwood - BluePhantom - 05-07-2017
(05-07-2017, 12:40 AM)RiverRat link Wrote:Excellent game from Graham and not just because it was wet.Brock Maclean style.
He will probably never gain the positive yardage that Simmo does but Bolton's short kicking possession game plays right into his skill set because he has always had the ability to run hard (not necessarily fast) to create space to receive a short pass and he is also good at hitting a target with a short kick.
Has never been afraid to put his body on the line but he surprised me yesterday with how well he competed over his head when the ball was kicked (too high) to him in the forward line. If he didn't mark it, he usually managed to bring the ball to ground.
Twice he was standing in the goal square for the quick handball and goal but was overlooked.
Re: 2017 Rd 7: After Match Analysis: Carlton vs Collingwood - Baggers - 05-07-2017
(05-06-2017, 07:19 AM)pinot link Wrote:Nick Graham not getting much love only made one mistake trying to center the ball. Otherwise he was massive when the heat was on early
Wrapped that you mentioned this. Like last week and probably even better, he was contributing well when the heat was on. Our 'lesser lights' sure did contribute well/play their part... Graham, ASOS, Wright (fast becoming the delisted free agent of the decade!), Kerridge (disposal was better but still some howlers!), Smedts... first year blokes SPS and Willo look right at home and will only improve!
One of the best 'even' performances from our boys in a long, long time. Everyone seemed to pull their weight. No passengers. No excessive reliance on a few brilliant individuals.
What a test it will be against the Aints ...a good side in very good form.
Re: 2017 Rd 7: After Match Analysis: Carlton vs Collingwood - PaulP - 05-07-2017
(05-07-2017, 12:54 AM)BluePhantom link Wrote:Brock Maclean style.
Twice he was standing in the goal square for the quick handball and goal but was overlooked.
Never agreed with getting rid of Brock. Players like that are very useful in the overall balance of an AFL team.
Re: 2017 Rd 7: After Match Analysis: Carlton vs Collingwood - kruddler - 05-07-2017
(05-07-2017, 01:02 AM)PaulP link Wrote:Never agreed with getting rid of Brock. Players like that are very useful in the overall balance of an AFL team.
Simple. Attitude....and thus culture.
Re: 2017 Rd 7: After Match Analysis: Carlton vs Collingwood - PaulP - 05-07-2017
(05-07-2017, 01:05 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Simple. Attitude....and thus culture.
Seriously ? Hardly a problem child.
Re: 2017 Rd 7: After Match Analysis: Carlton vs Collingwood - kruddler - 05-07-2017
(05-07-2017, 01:10 AM)PaulP link Wrote:Seriously ? Hardly a problem child.
Very outspoken. Compared to Ellard who was a church mouse who followed orders and gave as much of himself on game day.
That was the choice on who to delist McLean or Ellard.