(05-01-2017, 05:47 AM)LP link Wrote:It's been widely discussed in the football media months ago, before the season even started.

The Daisy haters started kicking him before the JLT series even got underway, and then when he failed to dominate in the JLT they went up a level! There is so much rhetoric about him, I suspect if he won a Brownlow they'd claim it was rigged!

But lets face it, we still have lots of posters bagging Murphy despite his stellar start to the season, so I suppose bagging players has become the new black!

On the radio at the weekend Harf made a good point, he couldn't understand Carlton fans bagging Murphy for two clangers out of 30+ disposals. He posed the question, why are they bagging Murphy when Docherty and Simpson are playing at lower efficiency? It's a tell!

Booing Daisy is every bit as undesirable as the booing Ablett Jnr received at the weekend. These blokes aren't knobs who gobbed off and dribbled crap like Goodes, or snippers like Ziebell. They are just hard working footballers who generally go about their business quietly and without fanfare.

(05-01-2017, 07:06 AM)DJC link Wrote:From Jake Niall, Fox Sports, 27 March 2017:

Perhaps Daisy isn't as mercenary as folk think.  Still, $350,000 odd isn't a bad pay packet for a bloke who is likely to be a depth player.

(05-01-2017, 07:06 AM)DJC link Wrote:From Jake Niall, Fox Sports, 27 March 2017:

Perhaps Daisy isn't as mercenary as folk think.  Still, $350,000 odd isn't a bad pay packet for a bloke who is likely to be a depth player.

(05-01-2017, 06:31 AM)LP link Wrote:What you fail to grasp is that his form, his value to the team and his club (Which by the way is Carlton not Collingwood), are not related to either his wage or his past abilities.

All that counts is his most recent effort and his next effort! If he starts taking short steps, isn't working hard or starts potting team-mates then he's done, but he isn't.

Whether he is earning $1M or $370K, when he plays to his current ability he is still clearly in our best 22.

Despite the loss of leg speed and kicking, Daisy's probably the equal of Gibbs at stoppages, which makes him a better stoppage option than Kerridge, E.Curnow, Boekhorst, Armfield, Buckley or Graham.

He runs every bit as hard as anyone in the team, Simpson, Murphy and Kreuzer included.

He shepherds frequently only possibly bettered by Kreuzer.

He chases harder than some if not most of the team, despite many of them being clearly faster across the ground he often passes them in the chase! That irony is not lost on many of us, especially when single minded supporters bag Daisy for being too slow and ignore the faster kid he overtakes in the chase!

Daisy knows where to be and when to be there, he is every bit as valuable to Carlton now as Brock McLean was when he was also bagged by supporters as being done and dusted before he even played a senior game.

(05-01-2017, 07:15 AM)jeza link Wrote:What part of the crowd are you sitting in?

I've never heard the crowd boo either daisy or certainly not Murphy. I point out our captain won't tackle and actively runs away from defensive situations which makes it very hard to defend him.

Daisy gets very few possessions and scrubs quite a few simple kicks which is why he got dropped to the VFL. There is no conspiracy. He's not played as well as his younger and less experienced teammates.

He cops criticism because he's paid 7 times more than the guy who is out perfoming him which seems fair enough. I don't see him putting his hand up to take a pay cut to fit more/better players into our salary cap which is what hawks and cats players did for years.

Defend him if you like but be realistic about others right to criticise the bloke.

(05-01-2017, 07:25 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:GC game he got booed at the intro and at most contests he attempted and the ones he failed he copped a real pasting.....very embarrassing to see our supporters carry on like that.
There is some real hate of the man and his Collingwood background, and being a Malthouse love child on big money have fuelled it....

(05-01-2017, 05:37 AM)LP link Wrote:Not sure were this idea comes from, that you can pay players what you like, they have a players union and the CBA!

If Thomas was on $250K at his age and experience we'd be in big trouble with both the AFL and AFLPA, his base wage is about $370K for that many years of AFL service.

(05-01-2017, 07:59 AM)mateinone link Wrote:Unless the rules have changed
You have absolutely just made that up

If they have I apologise but I have seen nothing that indicates what you are saying is true

(05-01-2017, 07:31 AM)blue4life link Wrote:He's been on a hiding to nothing ever since he came to the club really, I honestly feel for the bloke.
My sister is a 50 plus year member and she's almost obsessed about him, she blames him for just about everything that's gone wrong at the club in recent times.
She's convinced that he's the reason that Eddie Betts left and nothing anyone can say to her will change her mind.

(05-01-2017, 09:36 AM)Gointocarlton link Wrote:She must post on here then ;D, what's her handle  ;D?