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Re: Be strong, say NO - ElwoodBlues1 - 10-30-2016
(10-30-2016, 05:37 AM)LP link Wrote:The solution to the sort of issues you are complaining about is to open your wallet!
Like it or not, Edelsten donates heavily to Carlton, as does Bruce Mathieson, Jennie Pratt and The Judge.
If you don't like your club being seen to be dependant on them, open your wallet and convince a large number of supporters to do so with you!
I think Carlton which has one of the AFL's richest benefactor bases also has some of the AFLs cheapest supporters! The Filth's mainstream supporters invest in their club far more heavily, as do the CheatsFC crew!
At Carlton we've become too comfortable and too accustomed to people like Edelsten picking up the bill!
LP...People invest when they get a return, or they invest their money elsewhere...the old Carlton forgot about the rank and file and have paid the price since.
Trigg has tried to mend that bridge but the only way back is to be successful and win games.....too many of the old punters remember the clubs love for Corporates, Pokie kings and cardboard entrepreneurs...and the disdain of man in the street members who were treated with contempt by the likes of Elliott etc...
Pies and Dons have always encouraged the working man to the club and never turned them away and thats why even in bad times they stick fat...
Re: Be strong, say NO - Lods - 10-30-2016
(10-30-2016, 06:34 AM)townsendcalling link Wrote:(Name another such 'colorful character' associated with and profiled by, any other league club??)
This guy ;D
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Re: Be strong, say NO - cookie2 - 10-30-2016
(10-30-2016, 06:35 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:LP...People invest when they get a return, or they invest their money elsewhere...the old Carlton forgot about the rank and file and have paid the price since.
Trigg has tried to mend that bridge but the only way back is to be successful and win games.....too many of the old punters remember the clubs love for Corporates, Pokie kings and cardboard entrepreneurs...and the disdain of man in the street members who were treated with contempt by the likes of Elliott etc...
Pies and Dons have always encouraged the working man to the club and never turned them away and thats why even in bad times they stick fat...
Spot on EB! That is so true and is tragic. It is one of the great challenges that CFC faces on the road back but I sense a change in the air now.
Re: Be strong, say NO - Lods - 10-30-2016
I do understand folk's concerns....The Doc in the box was a "FMD what are they thinking moment" for me also.
But I actually have no problem with him as a supporter and member....and LP's right.... wherever he sits on the ground he's more than likely to pop up on the telly especially if he's escorting his current "special lady".
He's different...a bit dodgy in some respects, but not someone who elicits anger from me.
We do have that elitist element and history and maybe that doesn't sit well with modern thinking but that's something that will evolve as the years pass.
I reckon the presence of the Doc at the club is really low on our list of concerns.
Re: Be strong, say NO - Thryleon - 10-30-2016
We may as well give it away if we can't have a bloke in the coaches box.
This wouldn't have rated a mention had we won that day.
Re: Be strong, say NO - Lods - 10-30-2016
(10-30-2016, 07:05 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:We may as well give it away if we can't have a bloke in the coaches box.
This wouldn't have rated a mention had we won that day.
From memory I think we went a bit ballistic in the match day thread.
http://www.carltonsc.com/index.php?topic=2052.0
From page 4 on
...maybe not ballistic but rated a mention.
Re: Be strong, say NO - LP - 10-30-2016
Well Lods, a bit of positive reinforcement going on there based on who was posting back then and who is posting now!
The reason we lost was obviously Edelsten! :
Re: Be strong, say NO - Thryleon - 10-30-2016
(10-30-2016, 07:08 AM)Lods link Wrote:From memory I think we went a bit ballistic in the match day thread.
http://www.carltonsc.com/index.php?topic=2052.0
From page 4 on
When you have one of the heavier losses for the year, the colours of people's underwear start being an issue.
We are an emotional lot, which shows we care, but I've even seen someone get frustrated at the size of Eddie Betts shorts when we were being beaten.
Re: Be strong, say NO - harrisendblue - 10-30-2016
(10-30-2016, 06:35 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:LP...People invest when they get a return, or they invest their money elsewhere...the old Carlton forgot about the rank and file and have paid the price since.
Trigg has tried to mend that bridge but the only way back is to be successful and win games.....too many of the old punters remember the clubs love for Corporates, Pokie kings and cardboard entrepreneurs...and the disdain of man in the street members who were treated with contempt by the likes of Elliott etc...
Pies and Dons have always encouraged the working man to the club and never turned them away and thats why even in bad times they stick fat...
people also make excuses when things arnt going well. not being or ever likely to be a corporate member i dont expect he same level of treatment that corporates receive. during my many years of membership i have never felt the clubs disdain of my involvement - but then i knew exactly what i was buying and did not expect more. to many are dishonest and will make up a reason for not supporting without honestly saying they are fair weather supporters or tightarses.
Re: Be strong, say NO - harrisendblue - 10-30-2016
(10-30-2016, 08:39 AM)LP link Wrote:Well Lods, a bit of positive reinforcement going on there based on who was posting back then and who is posting now!
The reason we lost was obviously Edelsten! :
clearly it was the docs fault the side was rubbish. hey maybe part of the prize allowed him to make a couple of changes - perhaps the prudes have a point - nah just kidding. go the doc go blues!