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Re: Rd 18: Post Game In depth Analysis and Soul Searching: Carlton vs Sydney - DJC - 07-25-2016
Sydney is the rated first in tackles this season, we're 16th. Sydney were two below their average with 80 tackles and we were 23 above our average with 89. If we can continue to out tackle the best in the business, I won't be all that concerned about missed tackles.
I imagine that there's a correlation between tackles attempted and missed tackles.
Re: Rd 18: Post Game In depth Analysis and Soul Searching: Carlton vs Sydney - cookie2 - 07-25-2016
(07-25-2016, 12:26 AM)kruddler link Wrote:When we chase them like Boeky did, you get rewarded.
He has copped a lot of flack on the back of the controversial trade he was involved in, but give the kid a break, he goes alright and offers some much needed speed and puts in. We could use more like him. Just have a look at the difference Army made upon his return a few weeks back.
Did not mention Boeky and whilst we're on the subject, yes his chase down and tackle were impressive. Army is also making a very valuable contribution, no argument on him. Why do you see my comments as an attack on those two?
Re: Rd 18: Post Game In depth Analysis and Soul Searching: Carlton vs Sydney - ElwoodBlues1 - 07-25-2016
(07-24-2016, 11:55 PM)cookie2 link Wrote:Sure, the addition of speed is great BUT we don't want to waste too much of it on chasing opposition arses. I don't care whether or not the Swans missed a few tackles - I don't want to see our guys doing it.
Missed...gives the indication we didnt lay a finger on them, the truth is we couldnt make them stick and they broke the tackles without too much problem..
Re: Rd 18: Post Game In depth Analysis and Soul Searching: Carlton vs Sydney - cookie2 - 07-25-2016
(07-25-2016, 02:28 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Missed...gives the indication we didnt lay a finger on them, the truth is we couldnt make them stick and they broke the tackles without too much problem..
Agree, that's what I was getting at. Just one example is Kennedy, admittedly a bit of a bull, who broke out out our attempted tackles with seeming ease a number of times. We need to stick our tackles especially close in to the stoppage or contested ball. Once the ball gets out to the runners and playmakers in a talented side it is a lot more difficult to defend against and we can waste a lot of energy having to chase them down - energy that we could be using to attack them.
Re: Rd 18: Post Game In depth Analysis and Soul Searching: Carlton vs Sydney - kruddler - 07-25-2016
(07-25-2016, 12:38 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:Did not mention Boeky and whilst we're on the subject, yes his chase down and tackle were impressive. Army is also making a very valuable contribution, no argument on him. Why do you see my comments as an attack on those two?
You mentioned speed and chasing arses.....it reminded me of that tackle and how well Army has done since coming back. Both have speed and can chase.
Wasn't attacking you, just following on from your train of thought.
Re: Rd 18: Post Game In depth Analysis and Soul Searching: Carlton vs Sydney - cookie2 - 07-25-2016
(07-25-2016, 08:04 AM)kruddler link Wrote:You mentioned speed and chasing arses.....it reminded me of that tackle and how well Army has done since coming back. Both have speed and can chase.
Wasn't attacking you, just following on from your train of thought.
Actually, and I haven't looked up any stats on this, I would put Army up as one of our stronger tacklers. His tackles seem to stick.
Re: Rd 18: Post Game In depth Analysis and Soul Searching: Carlton vs Sydney - PaulP - 07-25-2016
(07-25-2016, 08:23 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:Actually, and I haven't looked up any stats on this, I would put Army up as one of our stronger tacklers. His tackles seem to stick.
Don't know the best way of interpreting the stats, but Army is ranked 21st for both total and average tackles this season. Ed Curnow and Cripps are 1 and 2 for both total and average. Curnow 7.2 tackles per game. That's pretty impressive. Priddis is the league's leading tackler - 142 tackles over 16 games, 8.8 per game.
http://www.carltonfc.com.au/footy/player-statistics
Re: Rd 18: Post Game In depth Analysis and Soul Searching: Carlton vs Sydney - ElwoodBlues1 - 07-25-2016
Only tackle stats of interest are the amount made and the amount that were stuck causing stoppage or turnover.....if the player releases the ball to advantage when tackled then it isnt a successful tackle IMO...
Re: Rd 18: Post Game In depth Analysis and Soul Searching: Carlton vs Sydney - cookie2 - 07-25-2016
(07-25-2016, 09:02 AM)PaulP link Wrote:Don't know the best way of interpreting the stats, but Army is ranked 21st for both total and average tackles this season. Ed Curnow and Cripps are 1 and 2 for both total and average. Curnow 7.2 tackles per game. That's pretty impressive. Priddis is the league's leading tackler - 142 tackles over 16 games, 8.8 per game.
http://www.carltonfc.com.au/footy/player-statistics
Yes Paul, as I say I just noticed that when Army does tackle they do seem to stick. I'm a bit surprised he's that far down the pecking order in terms of numbers but there you go.
Re: Rd 18: Post Game In depth Analysis and Soul Searching: Carlton vs Sydney - Gointocarlton - 07-25-2016
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(07-25-2016, 08:23 AM)cookie2 link Wrote:Actually, and I haven't looked up any stats on this, I would put Army up as one of our stronger tacklers. His tackles seem to stick.Its because he grew up playing Rugby Union.