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Re: Need to Stick fat. - blue4life - 05-24-2015
(05-24-2015, 11:36 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:I'm sticking fat, not because I think it will change anything but because I'm Carlton through and through.
I think everyone on this forum is Thry, otherwise we wouldn't be here.
All Carlton supporters are very frustrated at the moment, we thought we'd been through the worst but now we're not so sure it couldn't happen all over again and it leaves a bitter taste.
I'll stick with The Blues because it's who I am, but I hope I see some real and lasting change at the club before I'm done.
Re: Need to Stick fat. - Lods - 05-24-2015
(05-24-2015, 11:55 AM)blue4life link Wrote:I think everyone on this forum is Thry, otherwise we wouldn't be here.
That's right
Even the most critical here are demonstrating they care.
They're motivated by a desire to want the club to be better.
Re: Need to Stick fat. - Thryleon - 05-24-2015
Of course.
It's why despite what we believe or how often we have disagreement we all want the best for it and just have different views on how we get there.
ironically the club want us to stick fat, but they don't do much of that. First sign of weakness and it's out tge door.
Re: Need to Stick fat. - Mantis - 05-24-2015
If we didn't care for the club, we wouldn't go to any games, or watch any games on TV. We wouldn't come here to vent our feelings and opinions. We would turn to soccer, tennis, volleyball, or netball for that matter. We do care which is why we share our anger here. We just offer threats to throw our love away in anger on how this great club has been managed for so long. I agree with all of us here sharing the same feelings. I just wish the entire club would put the best plan together to get us back to where we were so many years ago. Other clubs have done it so it isn't impossible. We can stick the fat when the upper board level sheds the fat. How about the board members do that for a change, and help rebuild in the most productive way the club can. Then we will stick it for a while because we will see an instant change on the playing field. Players having confidence we will move forward.
Re: Need to Stick fat. - deags - 05-24-2015
(05-24-2015, 01:19 PM)Thryleon link Wrote:Of course.
It's why despite what we believe or how often we have disagreement we all want the best for it and just have different views on how we get there.
ironically the club want us to stick fat, but they don't do much of that. First sign of weakness and it's out tge door.
I would argue they are trying to do that at present. Rightly or wrongly, it's the first sign of unity the upper eschelons of the club have shown for a while.
Re: Need to Stick fat. - Lods - 05-24-2015
(05-24-2015, 02:42 PM)deags link Wrote:I would argue they are trying to do that at present. Rightly or wrongly, it's the first sign of unity the upper eschelons of the club have shown for a while.
I think Logiudice and his faction + Trigg are presenting a united front
Do you think though that unity extends
-beyond the ruling faction to other members of the board
-to full support of the coach
-to full support of the playing group
Re: Need to Stick fat. - deags - 05-24-2015
You want me to try and guess or infer, because we have absolutely no way of knowing that for sure.
Appearing to be united is equally as important as being united behind the scenes, for everyone concerned. The fact they haven't caved to media pressure yet is certainly worth something. (Like I said in the previous post, rightly or wrongly). I seem to remember just recently that they came in for some criticism on this very forum for not standing up to the media.
So without trying to second guess motives or agendas that I for one have no knowledge of, outwardly at least, the support for the coach and playing group seems to be there.
Re: Need to Stick fat. - thrunthrublu - 05-24-2015
got better things to do on a weekend.
From a football purist POV, i d rather watch freo, syd, geelong and hawks go at it
its the old adage, "if you dont give 100% why should i"?
you promised me competitiveness, you promised me confidence.... but now i know
this was a ruse to get my money. I dont support dishonesty.
When this club begins to be honest with themselves and their members...then i will support you
Re: Need to Stick fat. - Thryleon - 05-25-2015
(05-24-2015, 11:24 PM)Lods link Wrote:I think Logiudice and his faction + Trigg are presenting a united front
Do you think though that unity extends
-beyond the ruling faction to other members of the board
-to full support of the coach
-to full support of the playing group
No chance.
I would say that our football department mirrors our board level.
Lots of finger pointing, few taking ownership and accountability, and everyone seeming to be waiting for someone to show some initiative.
Re: Need to Stick fat. - bancroft - 05-25-2015
The pres blinked in RD two and admitted we were rebuilding!
The press were all over it with talk of who's up for trade and what they are worth.
It comes out over the weekend that the "powers" spoke with Gibbs and Murphy to tell them they were "required".
So everyone else on the list KNOWS they are tradeable, If I was Henderson, Yarram, Casboult or any of the other 40 odd I would be telling my manager to get the best deal for me before Carlton tries to do the best deal for them, as the club does not rate them going forward.
This is a complete fiasco from the remnants of an appalling board that has presided over this club for nearly 20 years (pratts time excluded)
I've said it before and I say it again, time for a coup!!!!