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Football Department Review - Printable Version +- Carlton Supporters Club (http://new.carltonsc.com) +-- Forum: Princes Park (http://new.carltonsc.com/forum-4.html) +--- Forum: Robert Heatley Stand (http://new.carltonsc.com/forum-14.html) +--- Thread: Football Department Review (/thread-5260.html) Pages:
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Re: Football Department Review - jeza - 08-16-2021 (08-16-2021, 05:17 AM)Baggers link Wrote:I expect very few to agree with my post. I didn't post it to be popular, it's simply an honest opinion. I don't think there was clandestine sabotage. I agree that is some dumb 5hit. I just think you have overlooked the board and president are directly responsible for running a football club - not a business. Generating profit is only relevant if you can demonstrate you know how to take those resources and translate it into on-field success. Without that it means nothing. The pass mark for running a football club can't be $ in isolation. Re: Football Department Review - Milhanna13 - 08-16-2021 (08-16-2021, 04:31 AM)PaulP link Wrote:The review was called after Teague had coached about 40 games. 40 games !! How is that even possible ? With covid and all the rest. I'm not sure if they think Teague is making them look bad because the results don't fit with their unrealistic, feel good messaging in pre season, or what's going on. But that's appalling. His W/L hovers around 40%-45%. It's not that bad, and not the sort of results that warrant a review IMO. So, hang-on, we all go on, on here, about the poor development of players, the questionable recruiting, the poor drafting (in some years), the lack of ability of the assitant coaches. But, when the Board launches a review into these things, then they have gone early and sabotaged the season?? Yes, 100% agree that they should have kept it quiet (but, i guess this issue is, if it got out), but i dont agree that they should not have done it. Review was needed, they did it. Maybe they have failed in the communication Re: Football Department Review - jeza - 08-16-2021 (08-16-2021, 06:26 AM)Milhanna13 link Wrote:So, hang-on, we all go on, on here, about the poor development of players, the questionable recruiting, the poor drafting (in some years), the lack of ability of the assitant coaches. But, when the Board launches a review into these things, then they have gone early and sabotaged the season?? I think the review was an effort by the board to make it about someone other than themselves. That drove the timing and explains why they publicised it like they did. They aren't very bright and obsessed with protecting their own ar5es. Re: Football Department Review - northernblue - 08-16-2021 (08-16-2021, 03:08 AM)jeza link Wrote:I just hope we stick with Teague and find some gun assistant coaches to support him and, in particular, run the midfield. You don’t have a clue of Barkers strengths, weaknesses or what he did or didn’t do. Purely by the length of his tenure it shows beyond doubt that he was universally liked and respected by management and players. In the end that length of tenure was likely what finished him off given that it wasn’t unreasonable that “something” needed to change. Maybe the playing improvement you saw was simply the result of players seeing someone who they liked being booted and the players responded to that rocket. Re: Football Department Review - tonyo - 08-16-2021 (08-16-2021, 06:37 AM)jeza link Wrote:I think the review was an effort by the board to make it about someone other than themselves. That drove the timing and explains why they publicised it like they did. They aren't very bright and obsessed with protecting their own ar5es. Reviews like this one are probably just like a Royal Commission - they are not announced until those who do the announcing know what the outcome is going to be. It is also a neat way to shoot Bambi and then be able to point to someone else holding the smoking gun...... Re: Football Department Review - northernblue - 08-16-2021 (08-16-2021, 04:31 AM)PaulP link Wrote:His W/L hovers around 40%-45%. It's not that bad, and not the sort of results that warrant a review IMO. I don’t mind the review, but the timing and publicity has sure sucked… Review is good and in many ways necessary. This is smelling a bit like a corporate clearing of the decks to give the new guy a chance to write his own story… I just hope that cfc is front and centre and for the right reasons… Re: Football Department Review - kruddler - 08-16-2021 (08-15-2021, 11:10 PM)Lods link Wrote:Well the review is in.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JVNMmsN3Co Re: Football Department Review - PaulP - 08-16-2021 (08-16-2021, 06:26 AM)Milhanna13 link Wrote:So, hang-on, we all go on, on here, about the poor development of players, the questionable recruiting, the poor drafting (in some years), the lack of ability of the assitant coaches. But, when the Board launches a review into these things, then they have gone early and sabotaged the season?? I can only give an opinion on an opinion based forum. Doing a review mid season for a bloke who has coached 40 games, with a Wl/L around 40-45%, is IMO, absurd. I would also say that there is a time and a way of doing it without making it seem like a head hunting exercise. Our club has form for this type of behaviour - think back to R2 2015 when completely out of the blue they announced a ground zero rebuild. Both that announcement and this current one cause trouble, instability and uncertainty. Think back to the Geelong, Collingwood and Richmond reviews, and then compare them to ours. Night and day IMO. We all want the club to get better - the club has issues, as all clubs do, But we seem to pick the most unhelpful, destructive way of fixing those issues IMO. Which experts at the club thought we were playing finals this season ? I never thought that, and if Teague is being judged against unachievable goals, then maybe those that pluck random expectations out of their clacker are the ones who should be reviewed, and not the coach. Re: Football Department Review - bricky - 08-16-2021 (08-16-2021, 07:56 AM)PaulP link Wrote:We all want the club to get better - the club has issues, as all clubs do, But we seem to pick the most unhelpful, destructive way of fixing those issues IMO. Which experts at the club thought we were playing finals this season ? I never thought that, and if Teague is being judged against unachievable goals, then maybe those that pluck random expectations out of their clacker are the ones who should be reviewed, and not the coach.Spot on Re: Football Department Review - Milhanna13 - 08-17-2021 (08-16-2021, 07:56 AM)PaulP link Wrote:I can only give an opinion on an opinion based forum. Doing a review mid season for a bloke who has coached 40 games, with a Wl/L around 40-45%, is IMO, absurd. I would also say that there is a time and a way of doing it without making it seem like a head hunting exercise. Our club has form for this type of behaviour - think back to R2 2015 when completely out of the blue they announced a ground zero rebuild. Both that announcement and this current one cause trouble, instability and uncertainty. Think back to the Geelong, Collingwood and Richmond reviews, and then compare them to ours. Night and day IMO. Fair shout. I think we all agreed a review needed to occur. They have just handled it badly (no surprises!!) |