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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 07-06-2020

(07-06-2020, 12:19 AM)Thryleon date Wrote:TREAT PEOPLE EQUALLY FFS.  That doesnt mean promote, or deny one.  It means give everyone a level playing field.  This is why society is deteriorating FWIW.  We keep making bonehead decisions on the back of having made bonehead decisions because we keep trying to make it an eye for an eye.
While I'm generally in agreement with this statement, this COVID situation is a case in which the current situation is exacerbated by a very specific group behaviour and not really attributable to the wider community, yet it impacts everyone.

Governments are effectively powerless, and in most cases politically weak in the light of the current problems.

What are they going to do, publicly broadcast the fundamental cause and divide the community, it's untenable when the problem is really people not policy. It's too late in this case to do much, because the violations that caused the current outbreak came weeks ago when groups ignored the rules to host large family or community gatherings. Ironically, some cursory data suggests these groups are also the most vulnerable, they are actually the ones who should be ultra-vigilant of quarantine and isolation rules!

Political correctness and a minority privilege mentality has made things worse, yet there is no chance of it being address by politicians!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 07-06-2020

(07-05-2020, 11:58 AM)flyboy77 date Wrote:https://www.afr.com/policy/economy/failure-after-failure-for-tough-talking-andrews-20200705-p5596l
That feels like going the early crow.

I hope for the well-being of people in NSW the author is correct, because otherwise the situation might be genuinely grim given the recent relaxing of restrictions there and in Qld.

It's a very long bow to draw a relationship between the lack of ADF involvement and the current situation, a correlation rather than a causation.

This statement in the article is a huge tell, about COVID-19 numbers and reporting;
Quote:Andrews tries to justify the jump in numbers as being due to the much greater level of testing under way in Victoria relative to anywhere else in the country. He is not forthcoming on why such intensive testing is only necessary in his state.
So they are not intensively testing in the other states, "The Donald" approach, what virus?

Below is the policy of other states, but it is not a long term effective policy!
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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Gointocarlton - 07-06-2020

Was interesting to see 6 F1 drivers didnt "take a knee" with the rest of their colleagues before the race last night. They all posted reasoning via their social media pages. Leclerc posted  "..what matters are facts and behaviors in our daily life rather than formal gestures that could be seen as controversial in some countries.."
Thoughts?

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 07-06-2020

(07-06-2020, 02:33 AM)Gointocarlton date Wrote:Was interesting to see 6 F1 drivers didnt "take a knee" with the rest of their colleagues before the race last night. They all posted reasoning via their social media pages. Leclerc posted  "..what matters are facts and behaviors in our daily life rather than formal gestures that could be seen as controversial in some countries.."
Thoughts?
Is this the sign of a society segment or country that refuses the US global perspective, or just a fragmentation of "The West" as we know it?

FWIW, I doubt the future is much brighter for China, especially given that HK appears to be just the trigger some have been searching for!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - cookie2 - 07-06-2020

These latest measures certainly have a whiff of panic about them. What haven't we been told??

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 07-06-2020

(07-06-2020, 02:51 AM)cookie2 date Wrote:These latest measures certainly have a whiff of panic about them. What haven't we been told??
Ignoring the social mechanisms, the real worry seems to be that the latency of the infection is creeping beyond 14 days into the 3 to 4 week category.

I can't believe the other states are not conducting intensive testing, it's exposing the infection front in Victoria as much broader than authorities relate.

FFS, Qld is out pissing on and partying, are they risking becoming the next LA?

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Baggers - 07-06-2020

(07-06-2020, 03:10 AM)LP link Wrote:Ignoring the social mechanisms, the real worry seems to be that the latency of the infection is creeping beyond 14 days into the 3 to 4 week category.

I can't believe the other states are not conducting intensive testing, it's exposing the infection front in Victoria as much broader than authorities relate.

FFS, Qld is out pissing on and partying, are they risking becoming the next LA?

I spoke for the first time with a couple of friends who've had and recovered from C-19 - I spoke with them last week. A mother and daughter returning from the UK and were quarantined. Their flight into Sydney wasn't allowed to go to the usual terminal, instead it was met on the tarmac by an ambulance and the whole bio team and kit and kiboodle. There was a bloke on board their long haul flight with symptoms... fever etc. Apparently he was a young bloke and in a bad way.

Anyway, my pals -- mum 71 and daughter 36 -- came down with C-19 two days later and were very crook but not hospitalised. It lasted just on 4 weeks for both and a day apart, right at the end, both had severe diarrhea for a day. Both are fine now though a little croaky. The mum was a little worried as she has had a few bouts of bronny and has a crook lung but all A OK. They were saying that the docs were saying that it doesn't appear to be an anti lung thing as first thought but rather a blood borne virus that plays havoc with the immune system with diabetics the most at risk along with those with compromised immune systems.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 07-06-2020

(07-06-2020, 03:45 AM)Baggers date Wrote:They were saying that the docs were saying that it doesn't appear to be an anti lung thing as first thought but rather a blood borne virus that plays havoc with the immune system with diabetics the most at risk along with those with compromised immune systems.
It seems there is no general consensus, in fact one of the problems seems to be it's uniquely high variability.

I'm reading all sorts of reports of harming this bodily system or the next, what I'm not reading anywhere except from conspiracy theorists and nutters is that it's harmless!

I think if "Scotty from Marketing" wants us to get serious he has to enforce uniform standards of testing and reporting, but I suspect he also sits firmly in "The Donald" camp.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Professer E - 07-06-2020

The feds are pushing the "open the borders" and "the economy  the economy", Andrew's tries to shut it down.... And Andrew's is the problem? So who was right Scotty from marketing?

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - ElwoodBlues1 - 07-06-2020

The folk in the lockdown towers in Melbourne have received their first food designed to last them 48 hours.
A daughter and her elderly mother received 4 sausage rolls....
The local Mcdonald's must have been shut, nice to know you are valued so highly.. Disgraceful if that's the standard of food..