(08-09-2024, 02:50 AM)LP link Wrote:I'm sure the fact the athletes are under 24x7 medical surveillance by health professionals, if not loaded on anti-viral treatments, will be completely ignored by those parroting the "COVID is Harmless" and "COVID is a Conspiracy" mantra!

(08-09-2024, 03:35 AM)Lods link Wrote:No doubt he'll be put up as an example of how Covid doesn't really affect folks seriously if they can run an Olympic final...wheel chair exit or not.
There are issues at the other end of the scale though...

It was a tremendous effort to perform that well considering but....
The focus of the event is now not on the winner...and he's put the folks around him pre and post race at risk.

(08-08-2024, 01:24 PM)Lods link Wrote:No doubt,
But it was presented and controlled in such a way that to question the methods employed at any level was met with ridicule and vilification.
It was very black and white.
That wasn't helpful...it created divisions between friends and families.

Now I was quite happy with the approach...I felt it kept us safe.
It probably had a dramatic effect on the mortality rate.
But along the way there was no doubt a bit of wrong information and method employed in terms of restrictions as we moved through various stages of the pandemic.
A lot of the issues were to do with timing...when to shut things down, when to open up etc.

The result is that when (not if) the next pandemic comes along many more folks will be very hesitsant to undertake or go along with the same drastic methods employed during the worst covid years.

It's not something we can do much about, it's just how it will play out.

(08-09-2024, 09:51 AM)kruddler link Wrote:There is 2 things at play with this.
1. The Science.
2. The politicians implementing restrictions.

As we know, the science is the same the world over, essentially, some people are ahead of others and what not, but eventually everyone is on the same page.

However, the politicians varied drastically with their approach, country by country, state by state.
So 'best practice' was 'best practice.......for the politicians at the time.
Some were more conservative, some were more blase.
Some focussed on eliminating deaths.
Some focussed on minimising deaths.
Some focussed on keeping the economy alive.
Some focussed on whatever worked best for them and their mates.

I don't want to get into a who did what and why, but every country and every state and every country has an issue with how their leader handled things.

(08-09-2024, 11:11 PM)PaulP date Wrote:Notwithstanding that, it is important to note that science is a part of culture, and the way it is practiced is affected by the culture in which it is practiced.

(08-09-2024, 01:05 PM)DJC link Wrote:The science isn’t the same the world over.  Western science is way ahead of third world science and the status of scientific research  varies considerably from one country to the next.  India had very little idea of its COVID death toll and was unable to formulate a coherent response.  Sweden’s scientific response was at odds with most other western countries … and their citizens paid the price.

Even in our country, the scientific advice varied considerably from State to State and from State to Commonwealth.  How much of that was down to scientists conforming to political demands is debatable.