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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Baggers - 03-14-2023

(03-13-2023, 07:09 AM)Baggers link Wrote:Two days later, 3 Leos... 28th.  Smile

How about we have joint birthday party, 3 Leos, a huge party, on the 27th at the end of this year! Who knows, the club might loan us the 2023 Premiership Cup for the event  Big Grin

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Thryleon - 03-14-2023

(03-14-2023, 01:53 AM)Baggers link Wrote:How about we have joint birthday party, 3 Leos, a huge party, on the 27th at the end of this year! Who knows, the club might loan us the 2023 Premiership Cup for the event  Big Grin
Not a terrible idea at all.  Maybe the club will allow us a venue that wont cancel either!! 

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Mav - 03-17-2023

Another study supports the theory that Covid started with animals (raccoon dogs) in a wet market: The Strongest Evidence Yet That an Animal Started the Pandemic, The Atlantic.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 03-17-2023

(03-17-2023, 03:46 AM)Mav date Wrote:Another study supports the theory that Covid started with animals (raccoon dogs) in a wet market: The Strongest Evidence Yet That an Animal Started the Pandemic, The Atlantic.
I think it's self-evident that the pandemic was a zoonosis of sorts.

The Lab theory is political bullsh1t, some using it as an excuse to be racist, others using it as an excuse to justify doing nothing!

I'm cautious about many of these bat, rat, cat, racoon type reports. Not because it's impossible, in fact it may even be highly likely, but because a lot come out of or are funded by groups rallying against the live animal trade. While I'm not opposed to protesting against those cruelties, I'm not prepared to bastardise the science to make political ground. I'm also well aware that any little success they have on that front will next be directed at our own farmers. That doesn't mean that I'm calling for no action, it just means I retain a healthy scepticism.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Mav - 03-22-2023

Some good news: it looks like Long-Covid was a much smaller issue than it appeared to be early on:
Long COVID Comes Into the Light, Slate.



Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Mav - 03-28-2023

Finally, we have closure on that horse drug ‘COVID cure’, ivermectin. Well, sort of, The Age.

2 big and well-conducted studies have put the final nails in the Ivermectin coffin. But like vampires, the Ivermectin crowd can’t be killed off simply by science. They’re now hawking Ivermectin as a flu treatment  :o

Pity Flyboy isn’t around to argue that some study of 5 patients in Uganda shows it works really well.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - LP - 03-28-2023

So much money wasted because of political and social constructs, proving and re-proving things that were already self-evident, debunking subjectivity and myth. You get to the end of this costly process, and the nutters still won't believe, because their beliefs are based in fantasy and conspiracy. No matter what evidence gets provided they will just "invent a fresh fantasy" to negate it!

While I'm happy to see yet another validation of the real science, I'm not happy that people keep putting their hand up for grants to study this over and over again. It in effect steals money from the sort of research that really needs to be done.

Is this waste the true cost of deregulated social media?

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Thryleon - 03-28-2023

The ivermectin boosters weren't worth listening to because they had a foot in two camps and couldn't figure out if COVID was a legitimate threat, and whether or not medication was required, but if it was required, then Ivermectin would solve it and not the vaccine, which is completely hypocritical and sounds more like "I'll do anything but take a vaccine".

A very stupid way to address the pandemic with concerns that are somewhat valid to begin with and make genuine critics sound crazy by association which is the only reason they got attention to start with because it helps make people sheep.  After the whole vaccination stand that was taken, there was no way to say "oops, we got that and a few other things wrong", so the same line will be towed until someone is brave enough to come forward and tell us with certainty about the true lessons learned.

For mine, COVID is nothing too concerning and managed easily enough by Panadol or Paracetemol.  I wouldn't be indulging in fanciful fixes like Ivermectin even if they worked.

Whether or not the vaccine works as advertised is another story.  It may be a prophylactic for getting COVID as far as we can tell or it might do nothing but provide people some confidence.  Using my own case study, despite living normally I dodged COVID until 12 months after my 3rd vaccination which lends weight to it offering some level of protection, but a problem there is knowing whether or not I got near a positive case.  I have no way to know this with any confidence because I associated with too few people even though I was out in public to know if someone actually caught COVID around me and was a close contact extremely infrequently.  If you are worried about it, or compromised, get vaccinated, but there is no need to force the masses who are like me to get vaccinated. 

So draw your own conclusion from the above.  I'm going to let my immune system fight it with assistance from Panadol rather than go the vaccine route from now on, because that suits me fine and even at my worst covid symptoms, I didnt really need medical assistance, just some good old fashioned bed rest and couch time to recover with Panadol keeping the fever down.

Not sure why rest, hydration and downtime aren't the immediate go to fixes for illness these days.  Perhaps it has something to do with the bulk billing model where doctors only get paid on a visit, and that means bring your patients back daily to give them a certificate rather than giving them a chunk of time off to rest.  Happened to me a few years back.  Copped Gastro on Saturday, hadn't held food down and went to the GP on monday.  Gave me a certificate for one day.  Went back the next day still not having eaten food and got another one day cert when all I could do was keep my fluids up.  The next day went to another GP, who upon hearing that I hadnt eaten for almost 5 days and was still not keeping any food down, gave me the rest of the week off, told me to keep hydrated and rest.  Why do I need 3 visits to a GP to get 5 days off work when I was incapable of digesting food properly and was effectively peeing out of my A-Hole? 

The answer is that some doctors were too busy maximising their medicare returns.  A poor practise, and if you live in the Northern Suburbs, I know he practises out of two medical clinics, and one of them is close to Campbellfield, and the other is near Greensborough and Ill give you his name if you PM me.  More just to keep him honest if you visit him.  I have since stopped seeing him and have switched to a non bulk billing medical centre, because if I am paying for it, at very least the duty of care is not to fleece me.


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - Lods - 03-28-2023

The guy next door to my daughter lived with his Mum who has just turned 100.
Amazing woman, eastern European immigrant who lived through the horrors of the war but pretty independent and healthy. She still gets out in the garden.
Her son was in his early seventies
He caught Covid two Sundays ago.
He's dead!.
She hasn't caught it.

It's very selective.
For some it may be no more than a cold.
For others it's the end.
I get my fifth shot next Tuesday.


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour - DJC - 03-29-2023

Mrs DJC and I are booked in for our 5th COVID vaccination.  The person taking our details asked when we last had COVID and was quite surprised when we said never.

I suppose that we could have been infected and asymptomatic but I think the chances of that are pretty slim.