(08-16-2022, 04:11 AM)Lods date Wrote:What's a Collingwood ???

(08-16-2022, 12:46 AM)shawny link Wrote:Thank you.

I specifically recall hearing countless times in dans BS daily presses how unvaccinated are a risk to the vaccinated and that’s the primary reason the unvaccinated will be alienated and locked out of majority of places. Otherwise why do that??

Same way as so many said how dangerous it is to have jones anywhere near the playing group.

Or did they forget that as well.

(08-16-2022, 04:58 AM)kruddler link Wrote:You are less likely to get it if you are vaccinated, you are certainly less likely to get super sick from it if you are vaccinated.
That doesn't mean it stops you getting it. It means it stops you getting it to the same extent as those not vaccinated.

There is a difference.

As we've discovered time and time again in this saga, people hear what they wanna hear and make judgement based on misunderstanding, and misinformation in most anti-vaxxers.

For the average joe out there, they don't understand how covid works, vaccines work, flattening the curve works etc etc.
This is why we have experts, so we don't need to know.

However, one person tries to paraphrase someone and 'disprove' it and that supposedly invalidates the whole argument....despite the paraphrasing missing the point.

One example of this is masks.
Wear masks and help stop the spread

Now people see that and dive into it, the virus is so small it can get through the masks....thus...masks do nothing. ITS BS!

However, that is only half the idea IMO.
1. Wear a mask can limit the distance the virus can spread through it, compared to no mask.
eg Spraying water through a flyscreen won't stop the water getting through, but it limit how far it gets.

2. The part people are oblivious too, the psychology of wearing a mask. It is a constant reminder that you need to be careful.
You see someone with a mask on and it reminds you (i need to stay 1.5m away, not shake hands etc) it reminds you that you need to sanitise your hands when you touch something etc.
So masks are working as a reminder, even if they are not working as a face force-field.

But, prove some virus can get through a mask and the whole concept of masks is BS! Only to the ignorant.

(08-16-2022, 05:03 AM)northernblue link Wrote:More to the point “Only to the really, really intelligent” because they believe they are smarter than experts in the field.

(08-16-2022, 04:27 AM)Lods link Wrote:I guess the thing I was trying to highlight was the nature (in my case ) of the memory malfucntion.
It was a specific type of task image/name matching rather than a written question.
I wonder about the issues with others.

Thry
I hope you can continue to avoid it but there may come a time when you will be infected.
If you'd asked me three days after the initial infection I would have said it's 'no biggy'.
But then other symptoms kick in.
Maybe it's all in the mind.
You'd have to experience it to understand (Not that I'd wish that on you)
Walking up the hill while waiting for the car to be serviced yesterday I had to stop a couple of times.
I feel I'm on the mend, that's but I'm nowhere near like my normal self of just a month ago.

(08-16-2022, 06:01 AM)LP link Wrote:Actually the public use masks horrendously, because the disposables most of us wear are only fully effective when they are dry and fresh, that is why in a medical setting they are often changed multiple times per day.

It's all about attracting or repelling fluids, for the techno speak it's hydrophobic(water repel) or hydrophilic(water attract). The little viruses / particles need conditions to be just right to float or move about, too dry and they get stuck, too wet and they get bogged, they want things just right like Little Red Riding Hood.

Now too wet isn't an option for masks, because the level of too wet needed to stop the virus will also stop you breathing. So too dry is the only viable option, but with every exhalation we make the mask a little more wet, and at some point the mask goes from being too dry to just right. At that time the virus slides over the fibres like butter on hot teflon, wrap itself in a little moisture packet, and get fired at the next available passer-by with every sledge or expletive spoken, like a little viral bullet.

However, lucky for us one other aspect of a mask still keeps working, even when conditions have become just right for a virus a mask stops us firing out bigger particles, bigger heavier particles can travel further than small particles, bigger particles evaporate slower than small particles. Using a mask and restricting the particle size diminishes the chances of infecting somebody else, and to a lesser effect reduces your own chance of being infected.

(08-16-2022, 06:01 AM)LP link Wrote:Actually the public use masks horrendously, because the disposables most of us wear are only fully effective when they are dry and fresh, that is why in a medical setting they are often changed multiple times per day.

(08-16-2022, 04:27 AM)Lods link Wrote:I guess the thing I was trying to highlight was the nature (in my case ) of the memory malfucntion.
It was a specific type of task image/name matching rather than a written question.
I wonder about the issues with others.

Thry
I hope you can continue to avoid it but there may come a time when you will be infected.
If you'd asked me three days after the initial infection I would have said it's 'no biggy'.
But then other symptoms kick in.
Maybe it's all in the mind.
You'd have to experience it to understand (Not that I'd wish that on you)
Walking up the hill while waiting for the car to be serviced yesterday I had to stop a couple of times.
I feel I'm on the mend, that's but I'm nowhere near like my normal self of just a month ago.