(08-26-2024, 07:31 AM)DJC link Wrote:Fantasia worked hard up the ground too. 

He's not in my best 23 but, at the moment, he's in my best available 23.

Durdin probably shouldn't have played.  I guess the MC was hoping he could reproduce the form he showed against the Eagles before he was chicken winged.  He did have a crack though, particularly in the last quarter.

Motlop started the year like a house on fire but the series of injuries he copped knocked the stuffing out of him.  I think he's a player who needs a very good fitness base to produce anywhere near his best footy.  Yes, he'll jag goals here and there but he's not providing the forward pressure we need.

At the moment it's Owies as our best small forward, followed by Fantasia and the rest hobbling behind.

(08-26-2024, 05:00 AM)ElwoodBlues1 link Wrote:Id only play 100% fit players and that excludes Martin, plus I wouldnt play Cerra either as its just been too long between games for him and Id stick with the kids in Lord, Binns and Moir. Id say there will be still be doubts on a few of our injured players and I wouldnt be panicked into picking TDK, Curnow, McKay, Williams, McGovern if there are any doubts.
One question thats needs to be answered is if TDK plays does Pittonet?.....logic might say No as Brisbane only run the one ruck but if Charlie or Harry doesnt play then is TDK required down forward leaving Pittonet to do most of the ruckwork?

(08-26-2024, 07:56 AM)kruddler link Wrote:Disagree.

People who praise Fantasia (best entry inside F50) need to look at how he gets his possessions and what happens when he gets them in traffic. Same with Durdin.
Compare that to Motlop.

Fantasia pounced on a loose ball (it was our free kick) and managed to kick it forward.
Smart play.
Right place right time.
Ultimately, didn't win a contest though.

Same thing when he got his goals. 2 of (the 4) of them were joe the goose types from memory. He isn't really creating much. He doesn't get the hard ball. He is an outside player.

Compare that with Motlop and even Moir. They make things happen. Motlop will take the hard ball, try a stiff arm, a spin and then either kick a goal or get tackled. The latter occurs and people lose their minds. He is only young, is learning the game and you can't hate on him for trying.
Moir first goal last week came when is a bear hug. Was smart enough to not grab posession, but still influence the game by kicking a goal.
Incidently, Moirs goal this week came from a chain that started from Motlop being front and square, getting the ball forward initially and then picking up and handballing to Acres while about to be tackled. Acres delivered to Moir in space.

FWIW...
Owies - 11 touches - 5 score involvements - 1.0 goal -1 goal assists - 2 tackles - 0 clearances - 4 turnovers
Fantasia - 10 touches - 4 score involvements - 1.0 goal - 2 goal assists - 2 tackles - 0 clearances - 5 turnovers
Motlop - 4 touches - 3 score involvements - 1.1 goals - 0 goal assists - 2 tackles - 1 clearance - 2 turnovers
Durdin - 4 touches - 2 score involvements - 0.1 goals - 0 goal assissts - 2 tackles - 0 clearances - 0 turnovers

1 was 'our best'
1 was 'great'
1 was 'the less said the better'
1 was 'injured'.

In terms of output, i'm not seeing a whole lot of difference between them.
They all had the same amount of tackles.
They all had shots on goal.
The all had score involvements.
Some got it more, and turned it over more

(08-26-2024, 07:56 AM)kruddler link Wrote:FWIW...
Owies - 11 touches - 5 score involvements - 1.0 goal -1 goal assists - 2 tackles - 0 clearances - 4 turnovers
Fantasia - 10 touches - 4 score involvements - 1.0 goal - 2 goal assists - 2 tackles - 0 clearances - 5 turnovers
Motlop - 4 touches - 3 score involvements - 1.1 goals - 0 goal assists - 2 tackles - 1 clearance - 2 turnovers
Durdin - 4 touches - 2 score involvements - 0.1 goals - 0 goal assissts - 2 tackles - 0 clearances - 0 turnovers

1 was 'our best'
1 was 'great'
1 was 'the less said the better'
1 was 'injured'.

In terms of output, i'm not seeing a whole lot of difference between them.
They all had the same amount of tackles.
They all had shots on goal.
The all had score involvements.
Some got it more, and turned it over more

(08-26-2024, 08:13 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:Posters want to axe Fantasia when he plays a good game and even when he doesn't play at all.

Am I missing something?

(08-26-2024, 08:13 AM)madbluboy link Wrote:Posters want to axe Fantasia when he plays a good game and even when he doesn't play at all.

Am I missing something?

(08-26-2024, 08:11 AM)Thryleon link Wrote:throw the stat book out.  Motlop was garbage and has been all season.  Djc was being kind when he said he started the year like a house on fire.

Fantasia is outside, that's his go and like you said we lack team balance so we subbed off a meat and potatoes player in Carroll and brought on moir. 

For mine it was durdin or motlop out not a meat and potatoes player.  We'll never know if that was the right reign to pull but fantasia was not in that conversation at 3/4 time.